14-06-2008, 04:29 PM
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Little Spiders
http://www.ent.orst.edu/bugbook/taxo...thrombium.html
Red Velvet Mites?
Dave
"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
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In article
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Des Higgins writes:
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| | not true spiders as such but arachnids (which include spiders) ;
they
| | are mites; not red spider mites as you point out; in fact I have
no
| | idea which kind apart from being "the tiny fast bright red mites
that
| | you see running around on concrete"; they look harmless but that
is
| | based on no particular information.
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| Actually, the common, bright red, spider-like things that run around
| ARE true spiders! =A0They are not mites, as you can see with a good
| magnifying glass.
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| How do we prove this? I bet 50euro cents that they are not true
| spiders (that is worth about 400quid these days). I promise to get
| Roy Omond to hand deliver this (he lives in Great Chesterford) if you
| are correct.
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| Just to check, we are talking about the bright scarlet things that
| move very quickly and that are very tiny?
Yes.
| They are mites who do indded have 8 legs like spiders but have just
| one blob for a body; they do not have a distinct abdomen and head
| +thorax like spiders.
Don't bet on it. As far as I know, there are no mites that are fast
moving - indeed, I think that almost all mites are parasitic. Such
creatures almost always have very short legs and move slowly; red
spider mites certainly do.
Also, not all spiders show a clear thorax/abdomen distinction and
spider relatives like harvestmen don't show any. If they look like
mites, but with VERY long legs, harvestmen are a likely guess, and
they are more spiders than mites. Some harvestment have spider-
length legs.
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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