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"Jangchub" wrote in message
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I don't need you to dissect trees in my yard to tell me how much water
is required.


Why are you fighting against dissecting and understanding trees. Knowing
and seeing where when and how water is loaded is done by dissections. I
guess you never have and never will dissect and understand trees. Have fun.
First I would not come to your house and do anything for you. I was not
talking to you , I do not like you due to your words and some how you think
I am trying to win you. No way Jose,.

You say the trees go dormant. Please explain. When the top is resting the
bottom is ofetn working hard. We proved that in the Northeast. Root hairs
were active under ice and frozen soil. So when you say dorment what do you
mean? What part, what does dorment mean, your words? The best tree
biologist in the world are having trouble defining it this year. What we
thought was a system shutdown is far from the truth.


Texas has ten very distinctive regions, all different,
and each corridor has it's own species, and each side of each of those
have species which only live either within, or to one or both sides of
the regional line. I studied rangeland ecology.


I dissected live oak trees. So I see some unique feartures. The theme is
the same. maybe you could explain some anatomy differences between your so
called trees and what grow in other places in the world. Texas is still
using wound dressing - by law, making flush cuts and blaming decline of
improperly planted, prune and fertilized trees on some insect, bug or
whatever except - hey , I screwed the tree up. Of course we all see Texas
finest quality in George Bush. Ya know, people are different in Texas.



Live oaks are semi-evergreen trees which can be 500 years old with
only a two foot diameter because of either years or decades of
drought.


Please define evergreen.


They go dormant mid-season unless there is ample water.

What goes dorment , what exzactly do they do to be dormant?


In
this region of TX the Live Oaks need to have fully saturated root
balls before planted or their ability to withstand hot winds all
summer with ample water has a lower success rate. If the root ball
is not saturated before planted there is no way to ever get to the
inner portion of that ball no matter how much water you apply. So,
you are not the only person who knows a newly planted anything cannot
do without supplemental watering...thank you very much.

The single largest problem with trees is that they are planted too
deeply. I know that, so does any arborist, or avid gardener. No
dissection necessary.


I aggree and say that the number one problem worldwide is improper planting.
Then improper mulching, fertilizing and yes pruning. So why are you not
happy that I offer some suggestions on the latter?
No, but a dissection would show in court that the flare at the base of the
tree is not a root flare it is a trunk flare and should not be barried when
planted.



My Live Oak trees require one inch of water per two week period to
remain health and supple. After their spring shed and push the only
thing which grows, in general and based on waterfall are branches, and
some leaves. Mostly (during drought) the leaf will remain in a bud
until either water is applied; rain or otherwise, or it will remain in
bud until spring shed after catkins fall.

I don't recall asking about my trees, nor did I elicit help with them
and no I won't send a branch. What for? My trees are healthy, so
far.


What do you call a healthy trees? My Christmas tree was doing great in my
basement in januray. It was doing great. We watered it and all. BUT IT
HAD BIG PROBLEMS. From someone that does not dissect trees please explain
what you mean when you say healthy tree. What features do you use to define
a healthy tree?

The single most dangerous problem in this region is Oak Wilt. As
far as I know, there is no Oak Wilt in this area within at least 10
miles.


TEXAS FLUSH CUTS AND WOUND DRESSING. And tree wrap. Staples Forestry, the
salvage hog!
TEXAS FLUSH CUTS AND WOUND DRESSING. And tree wrap. Staples Forestry, the
salvage hog!
TEXAS FLUSH CUTS AND WOUND DRESSING. And tree wrap. Staples Forestry, the
salvage hog!
TEXAS FLUSH CUTS AND WOUND DRESSING. And tree wrap. Staples Forestry, the
salvage hog!
TEXAS FLUSH CUTS AND WOUND DRESSING. And tree wrap. Staples Forestry, the
salvage hog!
TEXAS FLUSH CUTS AND WOUND DRESSING. And tree wrap. Staples Forestry, the
salvage hog!
TEXAS FLUSH CUTS AND WOUND DRESSING. And tree wrap. Staples Forestry, the
salvage hog!
TEXAS FLUSH CUTS AND WOUND DRESSING. And tree wrap. Staples Forestry, the
salvage hog!
TEXAS FLUSH CUTS AND WOUND DRESSING. And tree wrap. Staples Forestry, the
salvage hog!
TEXAS FLUSH CUTS AND WOUND DRESSING. And tree wrap. Staples Forestry, the
salvage hog!
TEXAS FLUSH CUTS AND WOUND DRESSING. And tree wrap. Staples Forestry, the
salvage hog!
TEXAS FLUSH CUTS AND WOUND DRESSING. And tree wrap. Staples Forestry, the
salvage hog!
TEXAS FLUSH CUTS AND WOUND DRESSING. And tree wrap. Staples Forestry, the
salvage hog!
TEXAS FLUSH CUTS AND WOUND DRESSING. And tree wrap. Staples Forestry, the
salvage hog!
TEXAS FLUSH CUTS AND WOUND DRESSING. And tree wrap. Staples Forestry, the
salvage hog!
TEXAS FLUSH CUTS AND WOUND DRESSING. And tree wrap. Staples Forestry, the
salvage hog!

That said, we prune only at times of the year when the insect
vector can carry the disease from distances.


TEXAS FLUSH CUTS AND WOUND DRESSING. And tree wrap.

If pruning is necessary
to prevent falling on the house in high winds, it is recommended by
the TX Dept of Parks and Wildlife, along with TX A&M to use pruning
paint and spray tools with Lysol between each cut not just tree to
tree.


LOL NOT LYSOL silly person. 10% household beach. Man, where did you get
your education on trees? Don Staples. Or are you Don Staples?
Wound dressing does not stop rot. You fool. If you cannot stop rot how can
you stop oak wilt? Silly silly person. maybe if you stoped acting like an
expert from texas with Bush, maybe people who dissect trees can offer
suggestions. many many many people have dissected trees, minus you Don
Staples.

The other way it is spread is via the fungal mat and in that
case they've had some success preventing Oak Wilt by trenching outside
the rhizosphere.

Look, I appreciate it, but you are not the only one on the planet who
knows something about horticulture, arboriculture or forestry. I find
you gallantly irritating because I can't figure out what your agenda
is with constant shilling. It's moderately annoying. If I need your
help, I will ask.


Don't ask me for help. Please go to Don Staples, Don Staples. I am
growuing a forest and you, Don Staples are not allowed near it. Pathogens
will be controlled.

Again, all you have to do is look and you will see when water is loaded.
Not just listen to somebody like you who claims to be an tree expert yet has
no understanding of tree biology. That's
annoying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I repeat for those interested in helping trees!

Many tree problems are associated with the following: They are Case
Sensitive.

Unhealthy Trees from the Nursery / Improper Planting
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20..._planting.html

Improper Mulching -
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/M/mulch.html

Improper Pruning and Wound Dressing (Unless you live in Texas then flush
cuts and wound dressings are ok)
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/tree_pruning

Improper Fertilization (See A Touch of Chemistry)
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/CHEM.html

Tree Farming and Related Problems
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/SOUND/

Troubles in the Rhizosphere
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/RHIZO.html

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.