"D. Staples" wrote in message
omsupplyinc...
Who did you steal this one from, yard man?

Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm

The researchers published it so people like me can use it to help make sound
decisions of treatments with respect to forest health. All you do is remove
all wood (substrate for the base of the food web and future water
reservoirs). When you salvage an area what do you call it? It surely is no
longer correctly termed a forest, i.e., how do you define a forest?

You claim to be a forester when you are a tree farmer that does not
understand the ecological stages of trees with respect to forest health. If
I am wrong I will be happy. Maybe you could provide some data on salvaging.
You only address one ecological stage and destroy the others. I mean that
is what you do. Thanks for being honest and explaining what you mean when
you say salvage and restoration. I mean a tourniquet will stop a nose
bleed.

If we could just get you to define what a consulting forester is. I guess
you don't want to try to define a forest. really strange behavior.
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Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.

"sympleasstless" wrote in message
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Salvaging this area would remove future sites that would have served for
reproduction of tree species (Franklin, Cromack, Kermit, et al. others,
1981).



Salvaging this area would remove a clearly important function of a system
containing trees (Franklin, Cromack, Kermit, et al. others, 1981).



Note: The phenomenon of nurse logs is widespread in the forest types of
the Pacific North- west. Minore (1972) found that seedlings of both Sitka
spruce and western hemlocks were more numerous and taller on so called
rotten logs than on the adjacent forest floor at Cascade Head
Experimental Forest (Franklin, Cromack, Kermit, et al. others, 1981).



Salvaging this area would remove CWD that would have functioned as
seedbeds or nurse logs for some trees species and many species of
bryophytes, fungi, and lichens, and some flowering plants (Table 7.6)
(Samuelsson et al. 1994; D.F. Fraser, pers. comm., 1995; E.C. Lea, pers.
comm., 1995) (Voller and Harrison, 1998).



Note: In the Crowsnest Forest, 40-70% of natural seedlings were rooted
in decayed wood in old growth and 24% were rooted in decayed wood in
cutblocks (S. Berch, pers. comm., 1995). CWD may be important to the
establishment of vascular plants around wet sites such as ponds and bogs
(Voller and Harrison, 1998).



NOTE: Page 203 has a list of some vascular plants closely associated with
CWD in BC (Voller and Harrison, 1998).



Conclusion: The capacity and ability, of CWD, to enhance the health
of threatened and endangered species too often goes unobserved such as in
the Painter Run Windthrow Salvage Project.



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--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Yard Man
http://home.ccil.org/~treedman
and www.treeddictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books
that will give them understanding.