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On Jul 3, 3:07*pm, gene wrote:
jim c wrote:
On Jul 3, 2:43 am, Billy wrote:
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"Pavel314" wrote:
I've been googling to find a location that sells furmint grape vines
without
any success. If anyone knows of a vendor, please post.
Thanks,
Paul
http://www.viticlonesupplies.com/id20.htm
Don't get excited, it looks like you'll be put on a waiting list.
You might give the University of California at Davis' viticulture
department a jingle. They might have a line on it (more likely someone
who could or has imported it).
If you're planning on making a Tokaj style wine, you had best learn
about botrytis cinerea, the mold that can turn a crop of white grapes
into gold or garbage. It is botrytis cinerea (a.k.a. bunch rot) that
is
responsible for Sauternes, trokenbeerenausleses, and Tokaj.
Thanks, Billy, I wrote to them both. What I want to make is shipon, a
Slovenian white wine made from furmint grapes. (In Slovenian, the "sh"
sound
is indicated by an "s" with an inverted chevron on top, but I don't
have
that letter available in my email fonts.) Anyway, it used to *be
available
everywhere in Cleveland in the 1960's and 1970's but just isn't
imported
anymore, so I thought I'd grow my own.
Paul
Does it have a varietal flavor or is it the structure (fruitiness, mouth
feel, tannins, ect.) of the wine that you like? If it was cheap, it will
have been tank fermented (either a lined concret tank or stainless). If
the weather is anything like Germany, the wines may be 6% to 11%
alcohol. I consider that consumer friendly. What did the one you have
taste like?
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Billy
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Hi, I went to the KZ Goriska Brda - Dobrovo winery in Slovenia (which
is on the border with northern Italy) a couple of years ago as part of
my honeymoon ^_^. *The climate is very close to that of mid northern
Italy.
I didn't try wine from the varietal you mention unfortunately, but
tried many wines from their range. *I think they are the biggest
cellar or even producer in the country and used giant stainless steel
tanks first. *Subsequently they ferment in Oak barrels for the
european market and in steel tanks with oak chippings for the US
market. *The guide told me that the American market seems to prefer
the taste that way.
I know none of this helps the OP much, but I thought I'd chip in 
Jim
I suppose a certain price point segment of the American market has
gotten used to the more intense 'raw' taste of oak chip wine.
I shudder that such an 'acquired taste' is now the preference for that
segment.
Gene
Sorry, I meant to add that the flavour of the wine was the selling
point that they felt they were fulfiling rather than the price (I did
ask). But, I can see where you are coming from I think. If the
preference is nurtured then the price point is established...
Now I am confused as to what you are trying to say.
By and large, chardonnay is the only white wine fermented in oak
barrels. The Germans sometimes ferment in large oak casks in which,
because of age and lack of sufficient surface area, they leave no flavor
in the wine. It makes no since for an inexpensive wine to be fermented
in oak, especially when it is a white wine, whose selling point is its'
fruitiness.
The taste preference has probably been established since the Roman
occupation. For conspicuous consumption a Slav would probably go for a
French, German, Italian, American, or Australian wine.
--
Billy
Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars
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