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Old 22-07-2008, 09:32 PM posted to rec.gardens
Paul E. Lehmann[_2_] Paul E. Lehmann[_2_] is offline
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Default Seven dust - Applied a month ago - Still toxic or not ?

frinjdwelr wrote:


"Paul J. Dudley"
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Okay Paul, if it can systemically enter your
skin and cause harmful reactions, don't you
know it will also be systemic on the cell
walls of grapes?


Yes. But I was hoping that a 6 week duration
might be long enough for
the dust to break down in toxicity. My neighbor
puts the stuff on all her greens ( collard,
cabbage, turnip etc ). She pounces it on with
an old nylon stocking. In fact, she does the
same with her corn (at the silk end of the ear
just as soon as soon as silk appears).

You got to be kidding. Have people still not
learned to have more respect for the environment
and themselves?

I know one thing. I'll never use Sevin on my
grapes again. I used to
use a Pyrethrin based pesticide ( Tiger Brand )
but haven't seen it at the store this year. It
breaks down rather quickly and most veggies can
be ingested within a week after it's use. The
Sevin was given to me and I tried it. I made a
mistake. All I want to know now is ( and I
thought that was clear ) has enough time passed
to degrade the dust enough or would it still be
hazardous ( ... and would washing them be of
any use ) .

In two weeks I will pick said grapes. I will
attempt to wash the bunches
by hand. Depending of that outcome, I will
either prepare them for wine or if washing
doesn't seem to remove the residue I will trash
those bunches that won't wash clean.

As someone else pointed out, the grapes will
have absorbed the Sevin. No way would I ever eat
them or use them in wine.


Unless you never drink wine, there is a VERY high
probability that you have drunk wine that was
grown using Sevin or Carbaryl 80 WP (liquid
Sevin)

Sounds like that was a
really expensive gift you got. Japanese beetles
are easily knocked into a bowl of water to drown
and sure when they're at peak you have to do it
every day but it still beats poison.


I have a backyard vineyard of 110 vines. I will
give you a glass of wine each time you come out
and drown them for me :-). I know a lot of
commercial vineyards around here that will make
you the same offer.