On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:28:15 -0700, Chris wrote:

On Jul 22, 7:04 pm, "Paul E. Lehmann" wrote:
Kay Lancaster wrote:

"Paul J. Dudley" wrote:
Last month ( mid June ) I had applied Seven
dust to my grapevine due to Japanese Beatle
infestation. I applied by hand ( gloved ). I
grabbed a handfull at a time and just tossed
it across the whole of the foliage and grape
clusters.

Didn't you read the directions... that's the
dumbest method for applying Sevin.

The dust was given to me in a mason jar by my
girlfriends father,
complete with no instructions. Just toss it
across the whole of the vine like he does his
peach trees. So that is what I did.

You'll probably take this as more sarcastic
criticism, but stories like this are why I'm not
sure most people should be allowed to use other
than a flyswatter as a pesticide.

You accepted an unlabeled jar of unknown
chemical of unknown concentration,
with no instructions, and you didn't know how
to apply it.

How do you know it was carbaryl, and not, say,
Paris green? Or maybe one
of the herbicides? Or flour?

Some day, a stunt like this is going to bite you
badly. This might be that.

Why don't you offer constructive advice instead of
bashing. I would be willing to bet YOU are
equally guilty of being ignorant on a specific
topic equally as hazardous or even more so.

You know, that WAS constructive, but you're too defensive atm to see
it. Next time you want to use a chemical on a crop,

1. Make sure it has a label
2. Read the label, so you know the concentration,
3. Read the instructions, so that you:
4. Know how to apply it.

Finally, you screwed up. Be an adult, take your lumps because you
deserve 'em, say "You're right and now I know better." Don't whinge
about it. The world won't always be a touch-feely warm little place
where someone can make everything ok.

Chris

OK.. You're 100% correct. I goofed - f'd up - etc.

Checking with the fellow who gave me the dust - Sevin-5%. Being is
he is 85 yo and farmed all his life, when he said to toss the stuff, I
did as he suggested.

I have written to gardentech.com ( the makers of Sevin-5 ) and am
waiting for a reply. I checked with my neighbor who uses the stuff and
read the instructions on the back and of course it said to use
appropriet dispenser. It also said that the preharvest interval was 7
days for grapes. Looking through www.gardentech.com/sevin_fastfacts.asp

Q : How does Sevin control insects?
A: Sevin has a dual mode-of-action - it works on contact and through
ingestion. Sevin is non-systemic, which means it does not penetrate
plant tissue - it stays on the outside. After controlling the
targeted pest, Sevin is easily broken down in the environment.

I know, I know now - day late an' a buck short... I should have done
the necessary reading ahead of time etc. And I should have told Mr Red "
Just toss it on - are you crazy ol' man! - do you know how them posters
will growl if I don't take all precautions and need advice because I
didn't follow instructions and protocol..."

I've used newsgroups in one form or other since DEC-NOTES. I can
honestly say that I never did pick apart everything a poster wrote that
I found fault with. If I couldn't offer some form of suggestion or help,
I move on to the next post. And then I remember the flame wars that
started taking place - people who just loved to tear everything apart and
find fault. Mispelled words, improper grammar, you name it - not having
a damned thing to do with the posters original query. Pre-spam spammers.
But it's ok. Take what I need - leave the rest. And I am not referring to
your own reply, there was useful input offered. Thank you - it will help
in the future - but really did not focus on my query - grapes good or bad
now that I f'd up.

= Paul =