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Old 24-07-2008, 10:20 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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Default OT: New web site - finally....


"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 24/7/08 16:49, in article
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"gavin" wrote:


"Ed" ex@directory wrote in message
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On 21/07/08 19:40, Sacha wrote:
It's taken longer to build than Rome but it's out the

www.hillhousenursery.com


Your site needs some serious work to make it generally usable.


I've marked this thread OT so now we can discuss this here! There are
errors
on the site and I certainly find the construction a wee bit baffling - I
think the end result could have been done with far simpler code/CSS.
However, to say it is unusable is overstating the case somewhat. Please
give
details. I'm not trying to catch you out, I'm seriously interested in the
details of your argument. There's a chance I may learn something - I will
concede that there are any number of people out there who are better web
developers than I am.

What really makes me mad is the kind of money that can be charged for
building/maintaining a website - I know as I've seen this in practice.
Great
websites can be built from the ground up very cost effectively if you
know
where to go (which I do!). And it is actually pretty easy to learn basic
HTML/CSS in order to more than adequately maintain a site(as I do).


I would like to make it crystal clear that I put this site's address here
for potential customers to comment upon. It is not and never has been
intended as a training example for other designers and I think it
extremely
unfair and wrong for it to be suggested now that it should be used as
such.
While I accept this is where your interest lies, Gavin, you do NOT have
our
permission to use our site or its builders in this way and you are making
incorrect assumptions, to which we object strongly, about what we are
being
charged. You have absolutely no information or knowledge about that.


Having just re-read your post I am even more annoyed at what you have
written! At no time will I "use" for your site for any purpose at all. What
use could I possibly put it to? Please explain. "A training example for
other designers"? Please also explain that sentence.

I have also made no assumptions about what you are being charged for your
site. Please show me where I have. I couldn't care what you have paid. I
made a GENERAL statement about SOME web developers and the exorbitant
charges that they make. I work in web development and I am qualified to talk
on this subject. Again, I couldn't care less who built your site or what
they charge you.

You really should learn to read what is posted before you get on your high
horse and sound off.