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Old 08-04-2003, 05:08 PM
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Shiva wrote:

If Joseph's Coat does what it is supposed to do, I am going to have to
figure out a way to attach it to a privacy fence. The fence is 6 feet
tall, and made of wood. I don't want a major project--and besides that I
can barely drive a nail in straight. What are the various methods used,
and what are your (collective) experiences with them? Thanks!


Is the fence solid and smooth wood on your side, i.e. is it your
privacy fence or your neighbor's?

You have a several choices, including growing JC as a shrub. The best
I've ever seen it is espaliered on a chain link fence. I'll take a
picture later so you get the idea. JC is not that large, produces about
7 basals, needs only about 3 feet at the base and fans out to about 5
or 6 feet at the top. It is not a really horizontal climber like you'd
put on a 3 ft. split rail fence. Picture a fan, and that's the idea of
the angle of the canes. In my experience, you will get those basals
while the rose is relatively young, say within the first 5 years. Don't
cut off those basals. JC will produce new long continuing laterals from
the base of those basals.

You can buy a 4 x 8 preconstructed cedar trellis for about $22, not XXX
criss crosses but rather square grid. Look around for the right shape
and don't get the arched ones. This isn't exactly the thing because
it's a kit, but it's the idea:

http://lib1.store.vip.sc5.yahoo.com/...ts/trellis.jpg

Hang it horizontally on the fence so it is 4 ft. high and 8 ft. long.
You'll need to eyeball where to put it, but probably flush with or just
below with the top edge of the fence would be best. You need to attach
the trellis to the fence, but you also want space behind it for air
circulation. If you have the rough side of the fence on your side, i.e.
with the 4 x 4's and 2 x 4's exposed, you might get lucky and have
proper spacing of vertical lumber to screw that trellis into. But that
kind of luck is hard to come by. You might need to nail two 2 x 4's
vertically into the fence, at the right spacing, so you can then screw
the trellis into the 2 x 4's. That's going to look like a lot for such
a young rose, but now's the time to do it. The wood will age and
disappear. BTW, you should drill pilot holes in the trellis with a very
fine drill bit because the 1 x will split easily.

Or, you could use lag screw eyes
http://bosunsupplies.com/images/0327-0small.jpg and just screw them in
where you need to tie or you could put up a grid of them. Use eye
screws of an adequate size to seem stout. It is a lot easier to get
those things in if you drill a pilot hole with an electric screwdriver.
By the time you screw in all those eyes in, you'll wish you'd put up a
trellis. But it will be inconspicuous, even invisible.

Then I'd tie with either clear plastic tree tie or plain ole plain ole
twine. You'll probably be tying and retying a lot. Once the canes get
more stout and stiff, you can buy enough of that 12 gauge green plastic
coated stranded wire that Allegra mentioned to use to tie with. It's
reusable, it blends with the rose, and it lasts forever. I *love* it.
Takes a little learning how to use, but it is fabulous. Looks like this
but 12 gauge is coated in dark green:
http://www.towingtown.com/Merchant2/...ight/bluewire.
jpg