"Pat Kiewicz" wrote in message
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Marie Dodge said:

Why would soap kill them in seconds when it's not a poison? Have you
done this yourself with wasps or is this something you read on an
organic site selling "magic soaps?"

Now you even have me believing you are in this for the trolling.

Why? Because I ask questions after taking people's advice here and the
products recommended no working? Why can't you accept the truth? Why should
people keep going out and buying one product after the other when none
worked before? Your ignorance is really surprising since the nymphs of
these insects cannot be "washed off" like bits of mud or leaf litter.


Lady, soap solution kills insects. Kills them fast. Soap kills earwigs
lickety split, even though actual over-the-counter poisons barely slow
them down.. You have to be sure to cover them with soap spray.
I have personally murdered hosts of earwigs and aphids with soap.
And I have accidentally killed a few bees with it. If someone says
he's killed wasps with soap spray, I'm inclined to believe him.

So non-toxic common soap kills them dead but no one knows this but a few
people on Usenet? If soap killed silverleaf-whitefly and 2-spot spider mite
dead, it would be well known all over the world by now. Thee two pests
alone do millions of dollars worth of damage every year, both in the USA and
SA. But no one but a few people here know soap kills them?


The only caution is that soap can also damage plant leaves. And the
solutionto *that* is to come back around and rinse the plants off after
the pests are killed.

To use enough pressure to dislodge the nymphs of WF and SMs will itself
damage the leaves, shred them if not knock them off the plants completely.
So tell them..... how much soap is used per gallon? At sundown I used a new
sprayer and sprayed the plants with 1 TBS per gallon soap and 1 TBS per
gallon flour as per one of the people here. All the WF and SP should be
dead and gone in the morning according to you. You claim the soap will kill
them dead whereas the nothing else did. We'll see.


Cornell sez:
Insecticidal soap products work by smothering soft bodied pests and
disrupting their cuticle layer. In order to be effective, it is necessary
to
thoroughly coat the pest. After the soap dries on the plant surface,
insects
and mites will not pick up a lethal dose.

Soap is cheap. I soaked the plants completely, top and bottom of the all
leaves the spray wand reached - right down to the ground.


http://www.nysaes.cornell.edu/pp/res...mfs/12soap.php

The link above couldn't be reached (see below). I can't wait to read why
farmers are losing millions of dollars a year to WF and SP by refusing to
use Soap to kill them. Neem Oil is also supposed to kill them. Maybe I'll
learn why they're not using that either but rather take great losses.

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