On Sep 22, 12:50*am, (Ralph) wrote:
johnny wrote:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 15:30:22 -0700, (Ralph) wrote:

FDR fdr@kjdfgkdfkl wrote:

What exactly did we all do before there was oil and pesticides? *You
know that it's a fairly new phenomenon.

They had methods of dealing with pests, although most have been long
forgotten. There have been a number of treatments for diseases which
have been taken over and pasturized or elminated all together. The
mainstream wants you to buy everything rather than figure out how to
solve it yourself for free.

But mostly they just lost large chunks of crops to pests. When the
pests ate the crops or the weather was really bad, they just died in
large numbers.

Heart disease and cancer kill about 1.4 million Americans each year,
diseases practically unheard of 100 years ago.

Hmmm. You think just MAYBE this has something to do with both of
those diseases largely showing up in older people and back in that
idyllic time the average lifespan was in the 40's?




But at least they were energy-independent! As an added
bonus, I'll fix your last line for you:

The mainstream wants to buy things rather than spending all their time
trying to keep from starving to death.

Is that an either/or choice? lol Civilization and inventions like the
plow and grainmill kept people from starving, not mainstream corporate
America.- Hide quoted text -


Nonsense. Who built those plows, tractors, combines, locomotives,
ships and all the rest that fed not only America, but the world and
continually raised our standard of living? Why the industries which
were the "mainstream corporate America" of their day. You want to
live at the subsistence level, do your own farming, and ride a mule
like the Cubans, that's up to you. But don't try to rewrite history
to fit your radical views.