In article , Cheryl Isaak
wrote:

On 10/28/08 9:17 AM, in article ,
"Jangchub" wrote:

On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:09:25 -0700, "Zoot" wrote:

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BUT! Just because governments do these things does not automatically make
that government a socialistic government. It is how much they do these
things that earns them the title of Socialistic or not. There is a line
drawn, past which you would consider the government to be a socialist
government. On the other side, you don't consider them to be so. Where is
that line drawn right now? Where will that line move to if McCain is
president? If Obama is president?

Let's forget the election for a minute. Where does Bush drawthis
line? Did you know the bail out had no contingency plan? The banks
did not have to list out what they were going to do with the billions
of dollars and now they are just sitting on it instead of using it to
help people with the mortgage debacle. Oop, I made a mistake. It's
not 700 billion, it's 850 billion, not to mention the trillions spent
on the war by the capitalist government.


Hey - don't forget the Democrats had a hand in the "bail out" and Obama and
Barney Frank took lots of money from Freddie and Fannie.


Cheryl

There are enough valid criticisms of Obama one wonders why the loonies go
for lies and racism. Obama -- relative to most politicians I've
reluctantly supported for lack of better -- is not as imperfect as the
rest. But from two great idealistic poetic speeches that indicated a
capacity for humanity and leadership, he's fallen a few pegs as a mere
politician guarded about what he stands for this week, and as much in the
pockets of the invested as every other politician. He still plans to carry
on the war, but mostly in Afghanistan instead of mostly in Iraq; he
unfortunately supports the very "trickle down" economics of bailing out
wallstreet while home forclosures continue to skyrocket; and for the
abjectly impoverished, he's remained as quiet as a mouse. I still "hope"
for he's a bit more than the lesser of two evils, which is all I've been
able to vote for in the past. Time will tell.

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