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Old 03-11-2008, 03:26 PM posted to alt.home.lawn.garden
Dioclese Dioclese is offline
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Default Which is better for the lawn over the winter?

Never indicated in any shape, fashion or form that I subscribe to making of
"teas" for application to the lawn. Just that its there to try. A
respondent wanted more information, I said want I knew off the top of my
head. Then, you jump in and make all these negatives, of which you want
demanding evidence of their actual workability. See my first sentence
here...

I did rent a 2 DVDs from netflix regarding gardening. Its whole and
entirety was about such "teas". Did not know that from title of the DVD
prior to renting same. I did watch both in boredom. I don't remember the
amounts for dilution. I do remember this self proclaimed "master gardener"
stating amounts of said product, then in the video showing said "master
gardener" measuring the product in an obviously another amount of said
product. Sometimes, twice as much as orally stated.

I Googled for "lawn", "beer", and "tea" in same search. Try it.

Here is the "master gardener" noted above:
http://www.dptvmedia.org/home.php?cat=50

In fairness, here's an opposing opinon about the beer thing:
http://www.homeabc.net/Garden-Landsc...Landscape.html

Seems to me it would be more prudent economically to incorporate some yeast
prediluted in warm water via hose sprayer, than beer. That is, if their
premise of the yeast in the beer aiding leaf eating bacteria is real.
--
Dave

If it looks like fish, smells like fish, its not
a cantaloupe.
wrote in message
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On Nov 1, 9:11 am, "Dioclese" NONE wrote:
A typical wetting agent is common dishwashing (manual) liquid detergent.
A typical agent for aiding "good" bacteria that eats lawn refuse like
leaves
and grass cuttings is the common beer.


I'd like to see any credible authority that has done any actual
testing or at least offers a scientific explanation for the idea that
spreading beer around a lawn is going to aid good bacteria or make any
difference in the lawn. What exactly in beer is going to promote
this miracle effect? I'm betting this is another urban legend,
often repeated, but without basis. I'd love to see this tested on
Mythbusters.

The typical nonsense says to mix up a gallon or two of this stuff
using a couple beers, then says to spray it on the lawn. Hmmm, they
usually fail to mention anything about the application rate, which
immediately brings their knowledge base into serious question.







Teas are not an exact science of mixtures and percentages related to
water.


Why am I not surprised?

They are highly biodegradable, so one person's recipe in terms of amount
related to water may differ much from anothers. So, its difficult to make
a
mistake that will genuinely adversely affect the plants and trees.


Lawn cuttings are also highly biodegradable by themselves.




Not related to the issue at hand:
Typical agent to aid nitrogen level is common household ammonia.
Typical agent for fending off insects is chewing tobacco immersed in a
nylon
stocking for 24 hours or more in warm area. The resulting liquid is placed
in the hose sprayer, not the wetted tobbaco itself.

If you don't want to accelerate the process, place leaves and grass
cuttings
in a small circular fence area and stack it. Takes about a year, keep it
moist, not wet. When its "cooked" put it where you want. Don't put your
gold at curbside for trash pickup.
--
Dave

If it looks like fish, smells like fish, its not
a cantaloupe."Keith Corwell" wrote in message

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Tell me more about the "TEAS" I always have just mulched up the leaves
and
let them lay.


"Dioclese" NONE wrote in message
om...
"willshak" wrote in message
news:UradncEQJreU4ZXUnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@supernews. com...
If no scientific study available, which is better in your experience
or
opinion?
Raking all the leaves off the lawn before winter, or leaving the
leaves
where they fell, and under a blanket of snow (see sig for location).
If
left on the lawn where they fell, would the nutrients be better
released
by melting snow, and also provide a smidgen of insulation for the

ground?


--


Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @


After you mulch the leaves, aid the decompostion with a wetting agent
and
something that aids bacteria in breaking down those leaves. There are a

few
"teas" in combination out there in recipes to put in your hose sprayer
bottle.
--
Dave


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