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Old 16-02-2009, 09:43 AM posted to rec.gardens
Dioclese Dioclese is offline
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 01:52:31 -0600, "Dioclese" NONE wrote:
I live in Austin, Texas where the soil is either deep or 5" deep with
solid limestone and caliche and there are a ton of fiberglass pools
installed every year all over the place. Those fiberglass structures
are many times more resilient than metal and aren't little flimsy,
thinly made tanks. They are very strong.
Victoria


Yes, you are absolutely right Victoria, they are *very* strong. It's also
not legal to install a 'damaged or repaired' fiberglass septic tank for
it's originally intended purpose even if they are technically as good as
new so there goes ol brooklyn1's flat tire theory.


You can prove your theory?

Certainly you can't install an obviously damaged tank but you certainly
can install one that's been properly repaired, the same as one can drive
down the interstate on a patched tire. Fiberglass vessels are of laid up
constructrion, there is no way to tell whether they're patched... the
entire thing brand new is one big patch upon patch upon patch. And if a
fiberglass septic tank is damaged so badly that it can't be patched well
enough to use as a septic tank than it can't be patched well enough to
hold liquid for any purpose. And most all fiberglass septic tanks are
designed to rely on the rigidity afforded by being buried totally or in
part, brand new they're not safe to use totally above ground... they also
need to be buried to protect them from UV and freezing. Typically
fiberglass septic tanks don't get buried below grade, preferably a berm is
built, of specified materials, that covers and supports the tank. Just
two years ago my neighbor across the road built a new house and tried
every which way to get around paying the $40,000 it cost to place the tank
and leach field etc. into a berm above grade. Where I live the codes have
recently become very strict regarding septic system installation but I've
never seen any code that says a fiberglass tank cannot have been repaired
before installation or after installation. In many instances cesspools
are installed, laid up block cesspools are still permited in some areas...
many folks still install drywells, you can still buy a simple plastic dry
well at Home Depot or make one of a 55 gallon steel drum, or whatever.
You can't make a blanket statement saying what the laws are regarding
septic systems, every jurisdiction has different codes, and every
installation is different... every municipality has different building
codes (some have none) so don't go making stuff up.

Where I live there are lots of wetlands, most everyone including moi has
more than a few acres of wetlands, talk about strict, now we're taking
Federal laws. I never saw a word about repaired fiberglass septic tanks
and I happen to keep up on that stuff. I love living with wet lands, not
five minutes ago I looked out my window and this is why:
http://i43.tinypic.com/334oiur.jpg


If using any material exposed to direct sunlight that's sensitive to UV, an
appropriate coat of paint will suffice.

To address the fiberglas septic tank installation issues you discuss, and
someone else infers not a problem with rocky terrain -
http://www.loomistank.com/download/i...SS_INSTALL.PDF

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Dave

CDOs are how we got here.
A modified version, new taxes in the future, is how Congress will get us
out?