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Rusty_Hinge wrote:

If you plant summer-fruiting ones, you will have to net them, or the
blackbirds will scoff the lot (or just peck them to pieces). For some
reason, they seem to leave autumn-fruiting ones alone.

However - they'll 'ave yer blackberries innit.

You'll need to net your blackberries. Even though we have hedges around
which are dripping with fruit, they covet my blackberries.

They don't take many of mine - last year, the rain did :-( But that
could be that the cats have taken almost all of the birds :-(

Loganberries? Very much as for blackberries. Try boysenberries and
Tayberries too.

And Japanese wineberries, and pretty well anything else of that form.
Most of the rubi cultivated for fruit have long shoots and tip in;
raspberries and a FEW blackberries are upright, sucker and don't
tip in.

My thornless blackberry is slightly more perennial, and its shoots
will live to 2-4 years. But, if there are enough young ones, then
it is best to cut out all of the old ones after they have fruited.
I don't think any 'woody' rubi fruit on the current year's shoots.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.