"Bill" wrote:
"brooklyn1" wrote:

I've taken down more trees than I can count and I don't believe you. A
tree
with a 15" diam. trunk, say a typical maple, will be humongous... 30'-40'
tall with a spread to match. If someone is down in a hole nibbling away
at
the roots and the tree starts to fall the weight of the crown will cause
it
to come crashing all the way, a person would get no warning, even if
someone
yelled they couldn't move quickly enough, they'd likely get killed, or
very
seriously hurt... even on the lee side a root can snap between a mans
legs
like a whip slicing him in two. Only a total moron would attempt such a
stupid feat (30 times no less), or expect anyone to believe such BS.

We were dealing with pin oaks up in North Jersey. Maybe I should have
said 8 inch diameter.

An 8" diameter trunk is hugely different from a 15" trunk diameter... it's
like four times less tree... but still way too big to _safely_ dig out by
hand without first felling the tree and then digging just the stump... pin
oak is a massive tree with very massive branches, typically right to the
ground when growing naturally... an 8" caliper pin oak weighs about as much
as a hummer.

Feel better?

I feel fine, thank you... I just don't believe you.

No one was in a hole digging as shovel reach would do it.

More BS... roots of an 8" pin oak can't be dug with a shovel unless one gets
down into the hole... even were it a 4' pin oak one would need to get down
into the hole to dig. And just shoveling wouldn't have done it, you'd still
need to cut roots, how did you use that bow saw you spoke of without getting
into the hole? A good liar would have claimed they cut the roots with a
pole pruner.

As to being a liar I try not to as it is all to easy to be caught in a
lie.



Consider yourself caught... your tale may work at your local titty bar but I
ain't buying it... pin oak is a fairly valuable landscape tree... were you
to buy an 8" caliper pin oak (and there's a big commercial market for them,
a favorite to surround parking lots and landscape industrial parks, and
especially along parkways) you'd pay well over a thousand dollars, another
grand to have it hauled to your property and have it planted. A sane
person would have had a large nursery scoop them out with the root ball by
machine, and they'd gladly pay you like 3-4 hundred dollars each, for 30
trees you do the math. Were they my trees there's no way I'd destroy them,
I would have called one of two nearby nurserys, they would have spent like
2-3 days removing pin oaks, they'd even fill in the holes, add top soil,
rake smooth, and seed. They'd very likely already have them sold so they
could head right over to where they're gonna plant them. When they drove off
with the last pin oak I would have had to do nothing, nada, zip, and I'd be
like $10,000 richer. I don't believe you, no way, no how... you picked the
wrong tree to lie about. There were no trees. LOL