"John Savage" wrote in message
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"0tterbot" writes:
"John Savage" wrote in message
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The Yanks often talk of "tanglefoot" traps for rats. Is that stuff
available here? It's a sticky pad critters get their feet stuck to,
something like industrial-strength fly-paper. (Stepping on it would
probably give the neighbour's cat a few anxious moments, too.)

finding a bunch of live rats stuck onto paper would also give any decent
human a few anxious moments as well. the yanks don't exactly have a
reputation for civilised behaviour toward living creatures and this would
be
one example.

if you want to kill vermin, i'd suggest just killing them, rather than
leaving them to die of thirst stuck onto sticky paper.

Your strawman has not a leg to stand on, but nice try.

it wasn't a strawman, it was just a statement.

I don't believe instructions accompanying the use of tanglefoot would
say to leave any trapped animal to die of thirst; and I don't believe
any user would -- no more than they would with other live-capture traps.
I'd expect users would check the trap daily and dispatch any captured
pests quickly and humanely.

Draw a comparison of this with a death drawn out over 2 to 4 days by
internal bleeding that the anti-coagulant type bait brings on if you
wish to balance your view.

but i don't have an unbalanced view - i just think snap traps are the best
way to go with rodents, in the absence of predators. and just lately my dog
has been stepping up to the plate re our mice (which makes a nice change :-)

how would one kill the rodents on a sticky trap? drowning? if there's only
one stuck onto the trap & you drowned it, wouldn't that just be a waste of
the trap? or does the stickiness remain, so after you unstick the dead rat &
dry off the trap, you can use it again?


There is nothing to be boastful of in the baiting methods used for
controlling rats, rabbits, foxes, pigs or dingoes, other then their
demonstrated effectiveness.

Do people who set live-capture cage traps really leave the rats in
the cage until they die of thirst?

those traps are designed for the user to release the rodents, er, elsewhere
(thus making it someone else's problem). at any rate that's what they say.

I can't imagine it.

can't you? why do you think rabbit & dingo traps were banned? it's not
because the setters of the traps would thoughtfully do the rounds twice a
day checking if they caught anything.
kylie