In article
,
Billy wrote:

.. Mann's
book reminds me of "Island" by Aldous Huxley
http://www.amazon.com/Island-Perenni...ey/dp/00600854

""Karuna Karuna" Here and now boys."

Bill wondering if you folks ever opened the pages of Ecotopia ?

http://www.amazon.com/Ecotopia-Ernes...8477/ref=sr_1_
1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1239210850&sr=1-1

Just the reviews here are worth a look.

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Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA
Not all who wander are lost.
- J.R.R. Tolkien (1892-1973)

Some Hopi gardener said, "This is not about growing vegetables; it
is about growing kids."