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Gary Woods wrote:
Charlie wrote:
What about us pig-ignernt autodidacts? Are we useful too??
At least those of us who repeatedly made the "Dean's Other List"
Jimmy has two lists?
probably
have a good dose of common sense.
Which, apologies to Gallagher, isn't all that common.
Uh, you apologized to the wrong guy.
To quote Fr Jim Tucker, "All of this should go without saying, but
common sense is surprisingly uncommon."
According to our oft absent, acerbic, taskmaster, Bill R., most of this
should go without saying. His vision of rec.gardens appears to be on of
terse questions and responses, both of which should be brief and to the
point, lacking any sign of humanity or individuality. Some of us prefer
"wrecked gardens" because it feels less "buttoned down" and more human.
I'm not knocking Bill R. for his attitude. In truth, he posts extraneous
material ("Digital Camera - Pentax *ist DL"), he shows individuality,
("You are never to old to play in the dirt"), and posts on how the way
things should be (see his post above).
I'm not sure what "noise" Bill R. would be referring to, but by any
measure, the preponderance of what gets posted here has to do with the
hows and the whys of gardening, and the social forces affecting
gardening, whether it be dumb Ag policies, or companies like Monsanto
trying to create a monopoly on seeds, to the detriment of gardeners and
farmers alike, or companies like ConAgra encouraging and facilitating
the consumption of nutrient deficient, processed foods, or the dangers
of ingesting produce imbued with herbicide/pesticide residues, or health
concerns about exotic proteins from GMO crops. It seems, to me, those
subjects should all be fair game for a gardening forum.
Then their are the unfortunate ones like keelematt who comes along like
so many before, apparently oblivious to the reasons behind the organic
movement, saying, in effect, that they have poured gallon$ of
herbicide$/in$ecticide$ on a problem, but the problem persists, and
should they pour more? Having civilly answered this question ad nauseam
times before, I would beg some understanding for those of us who try to
get the posters attention, and the attention of others who are tempted
to post similar questions, by hitting them over the head with a
(figuratively) 2" X 4". Poisoning the planet is a bad idea. Why don't
people see that?
Charlie has posted on soil amendments like special clays, charcoal,
pointed out the dubious wisdom of spreading toxic, mine tailings on
lawns and gardens, shared his experience with different garden
cultivars, and noted the effect on the quality and cost of produce
because of government policies.
Bill W. brings an understated sensibility of gardening to the groups, as
well as some culture, inspired by what we like, so much, to do. Often,
he is first with a site, which will resolve a poster's problem.
Maddie finds ways of inspiring some of the most slothful of us with her
reflections on gardening, and time, and place. (Thanks Maddie, I'll be
out this week end checking the prices on "Easter Lilies")
Jangchub, for all her drama, responds with advice on a myriad of
subjects and even shares from from her labors.
Hopefully, brooklin1, will dial back his abrasiveness to more
conventional invectives and venues, because he also has much to offer.
Although, I presume, the above are the malefactors of your ire, Bill R.
don't forget the majority of irreplaceable and helpful people here
like:
Bungadora
Cheryl Isaak
Chookie
David E. Ross
David Hare-Scott
Emilie
Enigma
FarmI
Glenna Rose
Ingrid
Jan Flora
Kay Lancaster
Lilah Morgan
Omelet
Pat in Plymouth
Susan N, The Cook
Val
Apologies to those not mentioned, it's a big team. To paraphrase
Shakespear,"All the world is a garden, and in our time, we all get to
play many parts."
So, "wrecked gardeners" get out your shovels and rakes. Tape up those
rolls of dimes, it's time to rum . . . uh, garden ;O)
Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G
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- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go
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