Charlie wrote:
On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:06:26 -0400, Bill R
wrote:

Dan L. wrote:
In article
,
gardengal wrote:

On Apr 7, 11:00?am, Billy wrote:
Gardengal,
my argument with you wasn't personal.
Ah, but YOU made it personal. Personal attacks and rudeness have no
value and very little place on a gardening forum. That you cannot
enter into a civilized discourse without them says a lot about you and
the confidence you have in your opinions.

It was with the facts.
Really. The facts according whom? What you did was take information
out of context and blow it up out of proportion to the specific
question. No one was disputing that soil organisms can have an
influence on soil pH but it is relatively minor in the grand scheme of
things. Other factors have a far greater influence. And they
typically react to existing conditions rather than creating their own.
The facts are that plants do not create soil chemistry or even alter
it to any significant degree - it is what it is independent of them.

Lord knows I've been on the dirty end of the stick enough time but each
time I learned from it (I think I have, anyway) and moved on. There are
many posters here asking for help, especially at this time of the year,
and your knowledge and experience can greatly benefit all of us.
Speaking for myself, I hope that you'll continue to post in the "wrecked
gardens".
I have no intention of being run off by the likes of you. I am
extremely secure in my education and my knowledge - I've been in the
horticultural industry for a long time - and I will offer advice and
suggestions to the best of my ability to those whom I think can
benefit from it.
Excellent, please stay. One does need mental callouses here and in life
general. Take and give what you want and ignore the rest. If some one
hands out a personal attack - just smile and move on. I, like many
others here have enjoyed a good slam at others also. Smile and Enjoy
Life. I have found this newsgroup has many well educated university
degreed individuals. A most useful newsgroup.

Enjoy Life ... Dan

Dan,

While I agree with you that there are still some very knowledgeable
people that post, there are MANY of us that post a lot less (or not at
all) because of all the "noise" here. Not only is all the off topic
stuff distracting the name calling (and worse) is good reason to abandon
these newsgroups. There are many moderated garden boards where the
people are civil (or else) and that is where a lot of us have gone.

God, I'll bet you're a barrel of fun to spend a day with, Bill,
working in the garden.

Charlie

Charlie,

That is why I don't care for your posts. You don't know me from Adam
yet you are *so* judgmental about all my posts. As far as I'm concerned
you can ruin this newsgroup all you want with your WAY off topic posts
and your very strange politics. I'll take my gardening knowledge elsewhere.

You (and a few others) have managed to chase a lot of longtime posters
away and that is a shame but not the end of the world. There are many
garden boards that are still very useful and the *best* thing is that
they only allow GARDENING post (*NO* politics). This group was going
long before you started dragging it down and will go on long after you
(and I) are gone. It is just ashame that it has come to this.
--
Bill R. (Ohio Valley, U.S.A)

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