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The suggestion is that you train last year's growth into a fan shape,
and tie in all this year's shoots vertically.

Vertically? Vertically! Any bramble worth the name will be scraping the
sky if grown vertically!

Train them horizontally, and if you want new plants, bend the tips to
touch ground, where they will root.

If not, don't let the canes touch the ground.

then the autumn pruning is
simple - cut all the fan shoots at the base, untie the vertical bundle
and spread them out into a fan.

Remove wood which has fruited. (With the proviso that some varieties
will fruit for two years on the 'old' wood.)

If you let last year's and this year's shoots mix in with each other,
untangling them all for pruning in the autumn is a real pain, especially
when you get to the stage of each shoot being 10 ft or so.

No problems, providing you only take short lengths - easier to feed into
the incinerator or on the bonfire thus.

--
Rusty
Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional.
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