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Old 07-05-2009, 06:24 AM posted to rec.gardens
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Default Systemic pesticide for roses


Charlie wrote in message
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On Wed, 6 May 2009 23:29:40 -0500, "Freckles"
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Charlie wrote in message
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On Wed, 6 May 2009 22:28:23 -0500, "Freckles"
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Charlie wrote in message
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On Wed, 6 May 2009 20:19:34 -0500, "Freckles"
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"Phisherman" wrote in message
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On Tue, 5 May 2009 00:08:50 -0500, "Freckles"
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I would like to use a systemic pesticide on my roses.

I've heard systemic pesticides can be very dangerous.

Anything misused can be dangerous. For example, water can be very
dangerous.


I've tried several different sprays and am not satisfied with the
results.


Not all systemic products are sprayed. Spraying can be hazardous
due
to inhalation.


Can anyone recommend a brand of systemic pesticide that is not so
dangerous
to humans and pets?

There are Rose Food/Systemic products that are applied to the soil,
scratched in and the pesticide is taken up by the roots.

I use the Ortho product (Bayer makes one too) on my roses only. I
am
willing to try other remedies, that is, if there is one that I have
not tried. Aphids are hard to control.




Thanks,

Freckles

I have ordered Bayer's systemic pesticide/food spikes.

Thanks for supporting a company that is poisoning my grandchildren and
the pollinators and a lot of other living things.


Supposedly one just shoves a spike into the ground next to the rose
and
it
will kill pests and feed the plant for up to 2 months.

Sprays of all kinds bother me. The thought of breathing any of them
scares
me.

For Eff's sake......putting them in the water supply doesn't scare
you?

If the spikes work, I think that will be the easiest and safest way to
take
care of my roses.

Educate yourself, and/or quit trying to grow stuff that perhaps
shouldn't be grown. Damn.

If you think you have a problen with Bayer and their products complain
to
your congressmen and Senators.



Nah, I don't *think* I have a problem with Bayer and their products, I
*do* have a problem with them. Been complaining to representatives
for years and you see where we are.

Listen kid, you need to educate yourself about the political and
economic wonders of the U$ and the world, as well as several other
subjects.

You know anything about the history of Bayer, their products, their
financial and political ties, yada yada? I doubt it.

Hmmm...now that you mention it, should I start writing my
congresscritters about the condition of education and independent
thinking in the U$?

Now, get off the damned Usenet and go resume your studies, kid.

Charlie


Thanks for calling me kid, but since I'm 71 I don't think the shoe fits. I
also have an extensive education including academics and personal
experiences.


Uh, yeah....ok, if you say so. I guess I wasn't able to glean that
from your, uh, responses.

I wonder how much better off we would all be if fanatics like your self
would quit disrupting scientist and let them conduct humane experiments on
animals. Perhaps they could find cures for many horrible diseases and even
find products that could replace some of the "dangerous" chemicals you
seem
so concerned about.


Thank you for providing this key to understanding more about from
whence you cometh. I'm even less impressed now.


Was I trying to impress you? Why? You are an ignorant twit.

But a fanatic is a fanatic no matter their cause.


See previous response for qualifiers for fanatic....uncritical,
unreasoning......

Charlie