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Old 14-04-2003, 02:20 PM
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Default How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?

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Is that a grape vine in the foreground in the first shot?


being still naked, the extent to which:
http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~mstephen/8x6S.jpg ...

Aye, that is still naked all right. Here, they just started leafing out,
but it beign a very strange El nino / La Vieja cycle of a year, the
Concord is completely bloomed and the Muscat is mid-way in blooming.
Very strange patterns of growth and bloom this year.

or so I hedge the bets and hack the grape.


Well, you still have them quite large. I think.


over the twenty years they've been living they've just bent down that
fence they're riding from 4' to 2'. squeeze play.


what gives me a good charge in this pic is that skyrose right-center,
back there along the fence--Cl. McGredy's Sunset, which was in the
first order I placed with Roses of Yesterday and Today years ago, and
my first hugely successful moved rose.


Show me again, please, when they bloom.


they're supposed to bloom?


I lack in imagination. Why did
you move that rose?


It was down to it, you know, move it or lose it. them, I should say,
moved Summer Sunshine and Mikado at the same time, they were the first roses to
recognize the coming Dark Age, although at the time it was just roses killing
roses. Planting roses three rows deep facing south ain't such a bright idea,
especially if there's a slope involved. Summer Sunshine and Mikado are still
with the living too, I'll add, though Summer Sunshine has to directly compete
with Trier, something it is surprisingly coping well with. Really dig Mikado,
but one I like better is Pompeii, which is available only from one cheap
catalog I know of.


Used to grow in front of--north of--Cl. Talisman, Trigintipetala and
Soleil d'Or--they were smothering it. At the time I requested that
RoY&T catalog I wanted to plant some old roses but when I actually
got the catalog I ended up getting just two 'old' roses, Leda and
Trigintipetala aka Kazanlik. The other 'modern' was Cl. Talisman,
they're all still alive and plenty potent. omni potent.


Speaking of potent and fecund roses, for the first time in all these
years, I have got rose seedlings popping up in a couple of different
places;


excellent, it's always amazed me to imagine what happens to all those
seedlings. I have one next to Alain Chandler, a gallica, grows next to
Nicole on one side and two hybrid Moyesiis on the other. There's one several
years old I've never been able to make up my mind about, Chicago Peace is
the closest unit. Whether it's rootstock or not. Chicago Peace has no
resident invasion of rootstock. Blooms red, ain't Huey. I just noticed
another one the other day, it's in an unlikely location, next to a couple
roses which have never grown like rockets but never seem to lose their edge
on life either. Yesterday I popped open a Nevada hip and took a taste--
dried, tasteless--but it certainly made me wonder how thousands upon thousands
of seeds every year but no new roses. I haven't looked very closely lately,
that's a good little project.


one is something from Irene Watts, or Souv de St. Anne's and
some Moore miniatures; the other is something from one of Kim's roses -
Dotty Louise, Othello, Gertrude Jekyll and Comte de Chambord. That's
what happens when I give up on deadheading. Am just letting the
seedlings grow in situ to see if I can tell what is what.


as easily as pecan trees sprout here I'm surprised I don't have more--I
should just throw some hips in the irrigation ditch and 'stomp' them in.


haha. definitely, it's right up there wit crossing foetida bicolor
with Elina, only need another Elina.


Isn't bicolor sterile?


no, I've seen tons of crosses with it in MR, it's all over the map,
infact it's a rose which endlessly fascinates me in that respect. there
are a couple sports of it--I'm dubious to any big differences with these,
though I have seen none--and the one I have has sported at least 5 canes
of straight yellow units, that is just the coolest thing to see.



It is blooming now, and is gorgeous. I have got
too much lavender at its feet, need to hack through it soon.


Nevada inches into it more each year and so does RazIce but everything's
a big mass and a big fight with none nearing the precipice, I like it that way.


And what happened to the other Elina? Bit the dust? Bit the ice?

Mind explaining?


only ever had one Elina, killed it. gd it. was near and dear but the
redbud keeps coming this way and if I hack it any more, it's going to lose
all semblance of a redbud. the redbud killing roses, the pecans and me
after the redbud, I just don't have a real good grip on the situation, never
claimed to.


the red rose, a recorded first rose moment
http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~mstephen/nuuk.jpg

all the ones and zeroes, you know who you are hahahaha, it's all
gobbledegook without a decoder.


Mister Lincoln g?


smoke and mirrors. my bigdog Chaco has taken to burying his food dish, I guess
he's tired of Burt stealing it, taking it out to Apricot Twist and ****ing on
it. Then Chaco will **** on it, then Burt again. Spent 3 days under Yves
Piaget, that was a *very good one. And of course he wouldn't eat out of a
metal bowl substitute. Last time for the first time, he took it across the
ditch, buried it under Paul McCartney. Started to dig into the new glads and
etc bed but it was too wet thangod. So I figured it must be closeby. Mr.
Detective.
If he's happy, I'm happy.
Yesterday I noticed Canary Bird had started blooming and they all got freeze
fried and I missed it, happened way early, must have, about the same time as
Primula. It's in a wild and dangerous location, between Fruhlingsmorgen and
Julie Annnnndrews, a pair of monsters. That whole area is just dangerous--
Gen Macarthur, Trier, Sparrieshoop. duck and weave navigation, you have
to have a good reason to get close.


m


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Radika
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