On 2009-05-07 11:09:25 +0100, David Rance
said:

On Thu, 7 May 2009 David Rance wrote:

What they've illustrated is not Rubus phoenicolasius but looks more
like redcurrant!

No, no, no! The leaves are wrong for redcurrant! But the berries do
look like redcurrant. Wineberry berries are smallish like a wild
blackberry, orange rather than red like a raspberry, and shiny.

David

Found this:
http://www.british-wild-flowers.co.u...nicolasius.htm
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