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Old 10-05-2009, 07:44 PM posted to rec.gardens.edible
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sherwin dubren wrote:

sherwin dubren wrote:
Steve Peek wrote:
If you have any interest in heirloom apples (you know, the ugly ones
that taste unbelievably good) you have to check out:
http://www.bighorsecreekfarm.com/ . They have over 300 varieties. I'm
gonna need more land.
Steve

Steve,

I checked out their web site and they offer four rootstocks of various
sizes. What was not clear was the possibility of selecting a
particular rootstock with a given variety. There must be a way to
do that, but I couldn't figure it out.

These people appear to be strictly organic, which is fine whenever
possible. However, certain pests like Plum Curculio, Apple Maggot,
and Coddling Moths probably will require something stronger than
Rotenone, say Imidan.

Sherwin


It is interesting that someone in this group has the power to remove
postings they find offensive. The entire discussion on Heirloom
Apples quoted above has vanished. It includes a defense
my position. Nothing like a little censorship.

Sherwin


IIRC paranoia is a side effect of insecticide poisoning. Huffing the
lindane again, Doo?

http://chm.pops.int/Convention/Press...009/tabid/542/
language/en-US/Default.aspx

Governments unite to step-up reduction on global DDT reliance and add
nine new chemicals under international treaty

Geneva, 8 May 2009 Nine persistent organic pollutants (POPs) were
listed today under the Stockholm Convention. Over 160 Governments have
just concluded a one-week conference with practical decisions that will
strengthen a global effort to eradicate some of the most toxic chemicals
known to humankind.

The Conference of the Parties (COP) has marked a historic week for the
Stockholm Convention. For the first time, the Convention was amended to
include nine new chemicals. Many of these are still widely used today as
pesticides, flame retardants and in a number of other commercial uses.
łThis meeting in Geneva has culminated in a momentous day for the
Stockholm Convention. Its significance cannot be under-estimated. We now
have a clear signal that Governments around the world take seriously the
risks posed by such toxic chemicals. The tremendous impact of these
substances on human health and the environment has been acknowledged
today by adding nine new chemicals to the Convention. This shift
reflects international concern on the need to reduce and eventually
eliminate such substances throughout the global community,˛ said UN
Under-Secretary General and UNEP Executive, Achim Steiner.
(cut)
The Stockholm Convention targets certain hazardous pesticides and
industrial chemicals that can kill people, damage the nervous and immune
systems, cause cancer and reproductive disorders and interfere with
normal infant and child development.
The nine new chemicals now listed under the Stockholm Convention a
Alpha hexachlorocyclohexane to Annex A;
Beta hexachlorocyclohexane to Annex A;
Although the intentional use of alpha- and beta-HCH as an insecticide
was phased out years ago, these chemicals are still produced as an
unintentional by-product of lindane. Approximately 6-10 tons of other
isomers including alpha- and beta-HCH result from each ton of lindane
produced.
Hexabromodiphenyl ether and heptabromodiphenyl ether to Annex A;
Tetrabromodiphenyl ether and pentabromodiphenyl ether to Annex A;
Bromodiphenyl ether congeners are a group of brominated organic
substances that inhibit or suppress combustion in organic material,
which are used as additive flame retardants. Brominated diphenyl ethers
are mainly manufactured as commercial mixtures where several isomers,
congeners and small amounts of other substances occur.
Chlordecone to Annex A;
Chlordecone is a synthetic chlorinated organic compound, which was
mainly used as an agricultural pesticide. It was first produced in 1951
and introduced commercially in 1958. Current use or production of the
chemical is not reported.
Hexabromobiphenyl to Annex A;
Hexabromobiphenyl (HBB) is an industrial chemical that was used as a
flame retardant, mainly in the 1970s. Based on existing data, HBB is no
longer produced and is not used in new or existing products.
Lindane to Annex A;
Lindane was used as a broad-spectrum insecticide for seed and soil
treatment, foliar applications, tree and wood treatment and against
ectoparasites in both veterinary and human treatments. Lindane
production has decreased rapidly in recent years and only a few
countries still produce it.
Pentachlorobenzene to Annex A and C;
Pentachlorobenzene (PeCB) was used in PCB products, dyestuff carriers,
as a fungicide, a flame retardant and a chemical intermediate such as
the production of quintozene and it may still be used for this purpose.
PeCB is also produced unintentionally during combustion in thermal and
industrial processes. It appears as an impurity in products such as
solvents or pesticides.
Perfluorooctane sulfonic acid, its salts and perfluorooctane
sulfonyl fluoride to Annex A or B;
PFOS is both intentionally produced and an unintended degradation
product of related anthropogenic chemicals. The current intentional use
of PFOS is widespread and found in products such as in electric and
electronic parts, fire fighting foam, photo imaging, hydraulic fluids
and textiles. PFOS are still produced in several countries today.
The 12 initial POPs covered by the Convention include nine pesticides
(aldrin, chlordane, DDT, dieldrin, endrin, heptachlor,
hexachlorobenzene, mirex and toxaphene); two industrial chemicals (PCBs
as well as hexachlorobenzene, also used as a pesticide); and the
unintentional by-products, most importantly dioxins and furans.
Further information is available at http://www.pops.int or by emailing

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- Billy

"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being is
now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the moment of
conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7843430.stm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go