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Old 20-05-2009, 05:27 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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On 2009-05-20 10:52:19 +0100, Martin said:

On Wed, 20 May 2009 10:40:17 +0100, June Hughes

wrote:

In message , Martin
writes
On Wed, 20 May 2009 10:02:51 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 2009-05-20 09:50:59 +0100, June Hughes
said:

In message , Martin
writes
On Tue, 19 May 2009 22:57:22 +0100, Anne Welsh Jackson

wrote:

Gordon H wrote:
Martin writes
June Hughes wrote:

On the Today Programme on R4 this morning, the announcer was
introducing David Cameron before an interview about MP's expenses
claims and introduced him as David Cameraman

Yes!

His evasive answers to the question of how much money he had made
from his taxpayer subsidised mortgage made me laugh too.
The shows not over until the fat lady sings, unless she becomes
temporary
speaker.

I was indignant at his suggestion that an immediate general election was
the solution to the expenses scandal. But he would say that,
wouldn't he?

I want to see a list of the MPs who _haven't_ been fiddling their
expenses...
and an end to government policy being dictated by the media in general,
and the fourth estate in particular.

The D. Telegraph had such a list yesterday. I think there were
around half a
dozen in it.

I was under the impression that most politicians had not claimed
anything they shouldn't.

No, they've just made 'mistakes' in claiming for e.g. mortgages
already paid off. If this hadn't blown up, I wonder when they'd have
realised their 'mistake'?

The biggest mistake is "flipping" houses and confusing the main home with the
secondary home, to avoid paying council tax and capital gains tax. IMO that is
fraud and should be prosecuted.


The only problem there is that they claim they were told they could do
it.


The invalid "Nurenburg Defence".


There I agree. But those who have 'fiddled' have done it with such
staggering sums and with such bare-faced cheek that I agree that this
has to be fraudulent. Can you imagine claiming mortgage payments from
an employer (us) and then saying when caught out "Oh sorry I made a
'mistake' and I'll pay it back"? And still keeping a job? Those who
advised them that their actions were legitimate may not themselves have
been aware of the scale of the fraud but if they were, then they, too,
should be charged.

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