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Old 22-05-2009, 08:47 PM posted to uk.legal,uk.politics.misc,uk.rec.gardening
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Default Doctors Warn: Avoid GM Food.

On May 22, 11:25*am, Martin wrote:
CitizenJimseracwrote:
On May 21, 6:46 pm, Martin wrote:
Bert Hyman wrote:
Da...@nos pam.thanks wrote:
The gene inserted into GM soy transfers into the DNA of bacteria
living inside our intestines and continues to function.[26]
No, it doesn't. From the cited article:
http://www.nature.com/nbt/journal/v2....html(abstract)
http://www.agbios.com/docroot/articl...df(fullarticle)
"Assessing the survival of transgenic plant DNA in the human
gastrointestinal tract"
" ... As this low level of epsps in the intestinal microflora did not
increase after consumption of the meal containing GM soya, we conclude that
gene transfer did not occur during the feeding experiment."
Don't confuse Dave by quoting actual science.


Perhaps it is YOU who are confused.


You claim Homeopathy has no science behind it and that you have to
"question" those who refer people to Homeopaths.


I don't need to question who refers people to homeopaths. Often it's
upper class, in-bred idiots with big ears who have never done a days
work in their lives yet seem to own places such as Cornwall.



Suppose the referrer is an MD or other fully qualified health
professional? * Do you wish to impugn all of them. *Do you accuse the
MD's who practice Homeopathy of being "quacks"?


Absolutely I do, and if that were the case then unless there was a very
good reason he should be struck off. The only justifiable case would be
for the hypochondriacs who keep going in for stuff like colds who will
benefit from paying money for useless treatments for self-limiting
illnesses.

$1,000,000 says you're talking bullshit.


Aha!!! JUNK SCIENCE is needed to "support" the witch hunt!!!

Perhaps your referring to the "Amazing" Randi, the one that Homeopath
George Vitoulkas spent 5 YEARS "negotiating" with to satisfy Randi's
every demand for the "challenge". After Vitoulkas had met every
requirement and "Amazing" Randi seemed ready to give the final go
ahead, Randi became ill, for several months, and was (surprise!!!)
the ONLY person with whom the "negotiations" could be made. Suddenly
Vitoulkas, while waiting for a response, Vitoulkas was stunned to read
on Randi's web site that he, Vitoulkas had withdrawn(!!!!) from the
negotiations and later Randi contacted Vitoulkas and quietly informed
him that all negotiations were DISCARDED and the whole process should
be begun again.

All you have to do is to get two samples, one distilled water one
homeopathic and be able to tell them apart. Put up or shut up.


If this is your idea of science then you have surpassed mere bullshit
by orders of magnitude.

What are the rules, the conditions, who holds the money in escrow,
which scientists will you appoint to decide the results - would a
Nobel prize be sufficient? What are the experimental conditions
should the test prove successful - will you then argue that the
Homeopaths results are invalid because they could not rule out the
influence of Cosmic Rays??
It is obvious to everyone, except, apparently, YOU, what farcical
nonsense such a challenge could be, and in the case of Randi, IS.

Which is why we have peer reviewed science and journals and a
community of experts.

Shut up or put up.

Citizen Jimserac