"Bill who putters" wrote in message
enigma wrote:
"brooklyn1" wrote in
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message

It is the roses that need no care that this thread is about.


That's right... wild roses are the only roses that need no care,
instead they need beware. Um, we were doing just fine, you're
the one who introduced the fancy schmacy roses into this thread,
so go sit on a thorn while you repent..

that's not true. there are many antique roses that thrive without
being fussed over... the rugosas are just *one* type of antique rose.
from your discription the roses in your field that you are whining
about aren't rugosas anyway. rugosas have a lot of short thorns, not
huge tearing daggers. they're probably multifloras.
i wouldn't call the old roses fancy schamcy. they're sturdy, disease
resistant, grow on their own roots, & can survive just fine in cold
winter areas (most old roses are hardy to zone 5, but several types
are hardy to zone 3). fancy roses are the hybrid teas that die if you
look at them wrong & have no fragrance anyway, but the florist trade
loves them.
lee

We have a few David Austin Roses that handle shade and neglect.

The David Austin roses are lovely roses and (generally) they don't need a
lot of care but that also is sometimes not true. Some of his roses are much
tougher than others, but the certainly aren't as touchy as bloody "Julia's
Rose" whihc I'd love to have but which I know I cna't have in my situation.

David Austin's roses wouldn't suit the situation the OP described however.
He needs the really tough old roses.

Bill who places corn meal about when I think of it for black spot.

What is corn meal and how does it work to stop black spot?