What’s the 660 m/sm?

Why do you want to dilute it further? The recommended continuous
feeding rate for the MSU RO formula is 125 ppm N. If your 0.75 tsp/gal
gives you that, why change?

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From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 7:10 AM
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I have redone this @ 0.75 /gallon
result is 422ppm/660 m/sm RO 6ppm

So i am thinking if this was diluted to 7 litres i should be somewhere
where i want to be around TDS 250-300 ppm and feeding @ every watering
Keith
"keith kent" wrote in message
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Sorry Ray , i am getting on my own nerves now !!
Your calculator & MSU comes out at 0.73 teaspoons per gallon or 0.95 m/l
per litre to achieve 125 ppm N.

This seems high still as when i added 0.75 teaspoons per gallon the TDS
was approx 650 ppm why ? as the calculator says it should be 258 ppm ,i
no this doesn`t include the other elements ,but surely they don`t add up
to 392 ppm
This is using RO @ 6ppm
Or is this TDS usually about right ?
I will try again 0.73 in a gallon again and see what i get
Thanks for the below i have printed it off & Cheers
Keith
"Ray B" wrote in message
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Keith,

A US gallon is 3.785 liters
A US teaspoon is 4.93 milliliters

An Imperial gallon is 4.546 liters
An Imperial teaspoon is 5.92 milliliters

1 US teaspoon per US gallon is 4.93ml/3.785L = 1.302 ml/L

1 Imperial teaspoon per Imperial gallon is 5.92ml/4.546L = 1.302ml/L

The ratio being identical means that 10 divided by the %N gives you the
teaspoons per gallon to use for 125 ppm N, whether US or Imperial units.

As you put one Imperial teaspoon in an Imperial gallon, you used
1/0.75=1.333, or one-third more than necessary, meaning that the
solution you now have is about 125 x 1.333=167 ppm N, so all you have to
do is dilute it to ¾ of its current concentration for use. You could
take a quart of solution out and replace it with a quart of water, or if
your mixing container is large enough, add a quart plus a cup of water
to the gallon.

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From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:32 PM
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Ray is it as simple as converting 0.75 us teaspoon to uk teaspoon which
is 1.0408427308 ( which is as good as 1 teaspoon yeh ?) then add this to
a uk Gallon which is 4.5 UK litres
What do you think ?,if i can get this right from the start then it will
be easy from here .Phew !
Keith
"keith kent" wrote in message
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Hi RAY ,i am using a online conversion would you convert US gallon dry
as the feed is powder form ?
Thanks Keith
"Ray B" wrote in message
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You are correct that you would add 1ml of a 13%N fertilizer to one liter
(litre) of water. I’ll leave the conversion to imperial gallons to you.

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From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:24 PM
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Hi Ray , for ml/L msu is 13 % N divide x 13 is obviously 1 ml ? is this
per litre so it is 4.5 ml per gallon water? it surely cannot be 1 ml a
gallon .
Cheers Keith
"Ray B" wrote in message
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What I have learned is that most professional growers (not just
orchids), control their feeding by managing the ppm N in the solution,
and letting the rest of the nutrients “tag along” in the ratios of the
preferred formula.

I shoot for 125 ppm N in my fertilizer solution at all times. It’s easy
to determine the amount to use – just divide 10 by the %N on the label,
and the result is teaspoons to add per gallon. For you sophisticated,
metricated folks, divide 13 by the %N to get the ml/L.

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From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:11 PM
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Subject: Jungle Feed

Thanks for that Ray , i did see the orchidboard post after doing a
search.
I am going to buy the Akerne orchids feed which is basically the MSU i
think http://www.akerne-orchids.com/index.htm as it is the only one
available in the EU .
As the feed is 13 -3- 15 does this mean that less feed will be required
compared to the 1-0-1 .
If so this is just what i am looking for ,as i mix up at 160lts a time
sometimes and liquid feeds ,i just use too much of the stuff even to get
the mix to 350ppm .
Regards Keith
"Ray B" wrote in message
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Dilute it about 12:1 or 13:1
12.8/12=1.07
4.8/12=0.4
14.5/12=1.21
Rounding to the nearest whole number, that's 1-0-1
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-----Original Message-----
From: keith kent ]
Posted At: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:33 PM
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Subject: Jungle Feed
Hi , Any thoughts on Jungle feed and can anyone point me in the
direction to
finding out what is in jungle feed ?
It is 1-0-1 , i have found out it is from a stock solution of 12.8- 4.8
-
14.5 so how do they get 1-0-1 ?
Regards Keith