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Old 12-11-2009, 06:43 AM posted to aus.gardens
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Default Are we being conned (again)

"Jonno" wrote in message
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"Jock" wrote in message
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the planet has been warming up since the peak (trough) of the last ice
age -
cashing in on a natural cycle? Who'd a thought?


"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
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Then there is this, from our own Dennis Jensen, a scientist, ex CSIRO.
His web page tells it as he sees it....
I believe him to be a socially minded HONEST politician.
http://www.dennisjensen.com.au/


You lost me as soon as I read his site - no substance at all. AND he had
Dr Jennifer Marahasy mentioned - she makes me gag.

I'll bet he didn't attend Dr Mal Washer's Parliament House briefing which
he organised for fellow Liberals on Climate Change. Mal Washer IS one
politician I would call honest and having met so many of them, I don't
call many of them honest.

Sorry about the people he has contact with.


It's more than just the 'people he has contact with'. I've read Marahasy
for years and she is a climate change sceptic. And as for Jensen being ex
CSIRO, he was only there for 4 years so could have done no long term
research on climate in such a short time. His site makes no contribution to
discussion on climate change, just says he's agin anything put forward. I
don't find that useful at all.

It's a complex subject and I dont' have any Science background to help me
out in understanding it. At best, I rely on real scientists and to me that
precludes many 'scientists' in the US where their research is so often
funded by big business. CSIRO says that humans are involved in climate
change and that it will impact negativley on Oz.
http://www.csiro.au/resources/pfbg.html

I know I've done a lot of travel through various bits of rural NSW and Vic
over recent years and whatever is happening and why is not a pretty picture.
I think our rural areas are pretty well stuffed.

We all have different opinions
Its not political though, its climate change.


Of course it's bloody political if you post claiming to using an HONEST
politician and that post sends people to Jensen (who says nothing) and
Marahasy (who is a sceptic)! All they were doing is presenting a petition.

Dennis Jensen appeared on Four corners last night, as a coincidence BTW
on the subject.


Yes. And that was an interesting show but not for anything it said about
climate change. The real story there was that the Libs are still in
disarray, are still arrogant and need to learn some humility and still seem
to think that they can make promises and change them at will. Their climate
change commitment was only made because they thought they'd lose the
election they clealry thought it could fool enough people into believing the
promise to survive and then they'd rescind the promise post election.
Cynical shits (as are nearly all politicans).

As an easy way to see if it is solar heating rather than people influenced
there has been the Ulysses
satellite observations of other planets also getting hotter....Hope your
sound program works...
http://blogs.abc.net.au/nsw/2009/11/...rina_breakfast


I'll try to listen to it later (if I haven't exceeded download limit in
which case I won't).