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Granity;872003 Wrote:
The original argument was that the hockey stick proved AGW
The hockey stick - had it been true - was a visual representation for
publicity impact, intended to make it "obvious" to "everyone" that it
was "really happening now". But it doesn;t really matter how warm the
mediaeval warm period was, or how cold the little ice age was, these
are
relatively slow climate changes over longer periods which can be laid
to
natural effects.

Well stated. "But the planet has always had warming and cooling" state
the deniers. Indeed, the planet has warmed and cooled, gradually, over a
long period of time, within cycles. A slightly different scenario, is
rapid warming (by comparison) that we are now seeing, with strong
encouragement by humanity. So yes, the planet has warmed before, just
not at the scale and speed we are now helping things along. I wonder if
the deniers will stop using that truth distortion at some point? Maybe
when we have warmed the planet up 3 degrees.

sorry, I am making an assumption there, that reality will force the
deniers to face the truth. They may continue to argue that the planet has
warmed before, naturally.

rob

Haven't you been brainwashed? :-(((

By the deniers? No. Like many people I am not 100% certain and sure. But I
do err on the side of their being a problem and meaningful action being
necessary to avert it. The strident deniers (many of them right wingers and
some the looney extreme right) act as though on some religious crusade or
bang on about some conspiracy. Should we face future catastrophy, and I
think the smart money is on that possibility, the looney right wing
extremists will I guess naturally present themselves at the prison gate for
incarceration?

No, I don't expect they will either.

rob