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Old 22-12-2009, 11:06 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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On 2009-12-22 21:05:36 +0000, "someone" said:


"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 2009-12-21 22:28:07 +0000, "someone" said:


"Mark" wrote in message
m...
someone wrote:

I just went to the Beeches Nursery U.K. website and was looking up a
dahlia
when my anti-virus program went into overdrive. Suggest you avoid that
site.

someone

you can check an URL of a web site for Virus infection from here
http://online.us.drweb.com/?url=1
?http://www.beechesnursery.co.uk comes up clean

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I am happy to hear that none of you had any problems with an apparent
virus
on the Beeches Nursery site, however, it *did* happen to me on the 19th
December. I have Avira Anti-Virus and it has proved very reliable in
the
past couple of years. I grabbed a couple of screen shots of the incident
and you can view them here on Flickr:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/12519030@N02/4204644002/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12519030@N02/4203887527/

I got out of the site, and got back into it a few minutes later and still
got the same result. I haven't tried since.

I'm not trying to put any nursery down, I'm a real nursery enthusiast. I
was just trying to alert people to a possible problem. I really do think
that Sacha went over the top to "shop" me to my ISP, and I'm glad she's
alerted Beeches Nursery, maybe they can have a look at my flickr photos
as
well. For obvious reasons I have redacted my own name in my screenshots.


There are no obvious reasons that I can see. If you're an outraged and
'damaged' customer, why hide your name while exposing theirs to doubt and
ridicule? Why not check with them, your ISP and your anti-virus program
suppliers first?

I wish the Beeches Nursery well, and may look at their site again
sometime
when I'm in an internet cafe and not on my own PC.

Maybe I was just unlucky with the Beeches Nursery at that point in time.

someone


If you're a genuinely concerned customer you'd go straight to the Nursery
and tell them the problem. You would not dash straight to the entire
world - literally - and warn them off a web site without consultation with
its owners. YOUR ISP is also MY ISP. You saw fit to post this
accusation anonymously which is very unfair to Beeches Nursery who do not
have the luxury of the anonymity you've given yourself. It's not one of
the most highly used or better known ISPs in newsgroup land, so I'm not
running the risk of some trouble-making idiot accusing me or another Zen
customer of doing this to Beeches Nursery, so OUR ISP will sort this out.
You hide your identity but don't allow Beeches a quick and early chance to
correct anything (that only *you* say is wrong) before you tell the world
to avoid their web site! From what I could see they run a good and
professional organisation and you have put that at risk, most unfairly and
unwisely. What Beeches Nursery does when they identify you is up to them,
of course.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon


You should calm down. I'm neither an "outraged" or "damaged" customer, I'm
not even a customer, I'm just a person grazing nursery websites looking for
a specific plant. If I get several warnings from my AV program, why should I
go back to that site? I suppose I could write them a snail mail to tell
them about this, so I don't have to do it online and risk another virus or
whatever. OTOH, I guess you've done the work for me, alerting my ISP and
the nursery. Thanks.


You're most welcome. Thank you for your concern but I am very calm.
The one exhibiting hysteria is you by rushing to a newsgroup as you
did. There is a modern instrument called a telephone with which you
could contact that Nursery. There is private email. There is NOT a
need to jeopardise someone's business because you're having a bad
moment which may have nothing to do with them. And if it does, it
would have been reasonable to warn them of the problem.

Everybody who has any sense hides their real email address when posting in
forums. I was so stupid as a newbie back in 1994 I posted in forums using
my real email address, now I have 500 emails a day trying to sell me drugs
and viagra.


And that is your excuse for trying to wreck someone's trading
reputation? I hide my real email address (personal) but I use my own
name. If you wish to be taken seriously, perhaps you could do the
same. That way Beeches Nursery will be able to identify YOU, the
person, without having access to your private email address and if they
wish to do so, they will discover whether you are a disgruntled
customer, a sacked former employee with an axe to grind, or a total
stranger to their site who they could answer here. So - who are you?
Please post your real name with a munged email address, if the latter
makes you happy.


--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon