On 7/01/2010 1:17 PM, Jonno wrote:
On 24/12/2009 3:34 PM, FarmI wrote:
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"FarmI"ask@itshall be given wrote in message
I've long wondered about both peak oil and climate change and whether
there is a difference in attitudes to both of those things between
country and city dwellers and I've finally come down on the side of a
distinct difference. City dwellers tend to witter on about it and say
all the right things, but don't seem to understand how it applies to
them
and their profligate ways. I suspect that only when the water stops
flowing out of thier taps or they can't get fuel for their fourbies
that
they might eventually realise what it really means. (rant mode off)

hm, sort of. but sort of not. i do think that dislocation from the
natural
world does not help people to see things clearly& the relationships
between them, but i'm also mindful that i completely changed teh way i
live whilst still a city dweller - many city dwellers have, and do. just
as they have no real idea what we are doing, we don't necessarily
keep in
touch with what they are doing either.

plus, i'm sure we both know rural dwellers whose behaviour is as
bizarre,
wasteful, and counter-intuitive as the behaviour of a cubbie living in a
mcmansion in kellyville. (unfortunately).

Before I wrote my rant yesterday, I was trying to think of one rural
dweller
(and by that I mean provide their own water) who was a real wastrel. I
couldn't think of one. But I'm sure there are some.

in many ways issues like these don't really have a country/city divide,
because there are people in both situations who just aren't seeing or
accepting or caring about things that are going on. i'm not sure the
mindset is locality-based.

i'd also say, however, that as far as i'm aware (& happy to be corrected
if i've got it wrong) that the proportion of rural-dwelling outright
deniers is far larger, even though you would expect the reverse!!

I'd quibble on that one.

i offer you the
national party as but one example - i've never voted national because i
completely disapprove of their unholy alliance, but used to feel they
played an important role. lately,

I think that they think they play an important role but I reckon
they're as
effective and useful as tits on a bull.

Gotta go, someone else needs the 'puter.
Yup youre right.
I do
Extremely cold weather across northern Europe has left scores of
people dead and caused widespread transport chaos.

Temperatures as low as minus 22 degrees Celsius have led to the deaths
of 122 people in Poland, with the main river, the Vistula, now frozen
over and causing fears of flooding.

In the Swiss Alps, avalanches have killed at least seven people, while
in western France, 14 regions have been hit by heavy snow.

Severe weather warnings are still in place across the UK, which is in
the grip of its longest cold snap in 30 years.
You hafta admit, this makes all you sophisticated know it all "prove it
to me types"
stop drinking and start asking " what is happening" I'll tell you" the
sky is fallin"




Merry Xmas Kylie and to all other regualrs of the ng.