Phil Cook wrote
Rod Speed wrote
SMS wrote:
Phil Cook wrote:

What everybody agrees upon, experts and laymen alike, is that boots
or shoes that start uncomfortable will never become comfortable.
Fit, fit and fit are the important things, all else is supplementary.

If the boots are full-grain leather then there can be a break-in
period where they become more comfortable.

There can indeed and that does in fact happen routinely.

And it doesnt have to be 'full-grain' leather either.

But for cheaper boots of nubuck, suede, or fabric, they probably
won't become more comfortable than they are at the time of purchase.

Suede does too, its leather with the best of them.

Suede is leather with the best bit thrown away.

Nope, just leather with the finish that some prefer.

It is the inner side of the skin with the outer taken off.

Yes. So the same considerations apply with it becoming more comfortable over time.

Nubuck is the outer that has been abraded to resemble suede.

Yes, which is why said what I said.

Full grain leather has the outer intact. A lot of winter boots intended for rough conditions
are made with the reverse side out to protect the face of the leather from wear.

All irrelevant to what is being discussed, whether some
boots and shoes do become more comfortable over time.