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Old 27-02-2010, 03:41 AM posted to rec.gardens
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Default Pruning old roses and old grapes - help!

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tazmainiandevil wrote:

Hi,

I just joined this forum as there seem to be a lot of smart gardeners
posting here and I desperately need some advice.

I have taken over a very big garden that was once well planted then
completely left for several years. I'm currently trying to resurrect any
of the plants that I can, and need advice on pruning, as I feel a good
pruning this time of year will leave me with a much better chance of
helping these guys. However, there are several roses, and two grape
vines that I am wary of pruning.

What I need to know is, how hard should I go with the basic old roses,
back to just 4 to 5 canes? One of the roses has stunning white flowers,
but it is very spindly and prone to disease, do I give up, or can I
prune health into it? Another is a climber with two strong canes coming
from the ground, and I am not sure how to approach cutting back the
spindly/strong canes coming from the main stems. Or maybe I should take
it back to the ground? It seems pretty well established.

The old grape vine is really straggly and it's hard to tell what's alive
and what's not. I unburied it last year from brambles and strung it up
on a trellis made of tree prunings and it fruited, so it's obviously got
some go in it. Again, I am really unsure as to how hard to prune the
vine, and how to know where to cut. Would I be better off waiting until
spring when I can see shoots to guide me?

I'd really appreciate some help with my mammoth project! I have about a
million other questions, but these will do for now.

x


Regarding the grapevine, see:
http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/1000/1428.html

You should prune now while the vine is dormant. The buds are plainly
visible as bumps along the cane. Try to leave 24 buds from last year's
wood to produce fruit. Best if they are on top of the cane instead of
underneath. You may screw up, but it isn't anything that can't be fixed
later.

also see:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?...=pruning+grape
vines&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=IZKIS5S-HJHCsQPo0bmGAw&sa=X&oi=video_resu
lt_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CBwQqwQwAw#client= safari&rls=en&oe=UTF-8&
um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=IZKIS5S-HJHCsQPo0bmGAw&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&ct=tit
le&resnum=4&ved=0CBwQqwQwAw&q=pruning+grape+vines
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