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Old 19-06-2010, 07:48 PM posted to rec.gardens
Paul M. Cook Paul M. Cook is offline
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Default The curse of BER


"Jeff Thies" wrote in message
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Paul M. Cook wrote:
"Jeff Thies" wrote in message
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Jeff Thies wrote:
Paul M. Cook wrote:
So I added calcium to the soil, I used fish emulsion fertilizer
I don't think this is the right fertilizer for tomatoes (although it is
what I in my ignorance used), it has too much nitrogen. It's something
like 511.

I found this:

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/...ing_plus/73178

So, the fish fert may not be your cause, but it does not help and may
indeed hurt.

Jeff

and I
sprayed the leaves with calcium water.
http://pubs.caes.uga.edu/caespubs/pubs/PDF/C938.pdf


Although some people believe foliar sprays can correct Ca deficiency in
developing fruits, research is very inconclusive on this issue. What is
well known is that Ca only moves in the plant via the xylem and moves
with the transpirational water flow from the roots, up the plant and
into developing leaves. Calcium has no ability to flow from the leaves
via the phloem to the developing fruit. In addition, once fruit has
grown to golf ball size, the waxy outer layer has developed and is
believed to be quite impermeable to water. Therefore, it is recommended
that all Ca supplied to fruiting vegetables be applied via the
irrigation water so as to maximize uptake by roots



Sigh. I was using the fish emulsion as it was recommended. I posted
earlier about using the foliar spray as irrigation water and was told it
was less effective that way. So what the heck, I will add it to the
irrigation water. I try to keep the soil from drying out. My pots get a
gallon of water a day and if I do not water in the morning I get a little
wilt by afternoon. This whole uniform water has me puzzled. I mean
those plants do grow in the wild


Not so sure about that. The wild tomato is a completely different
vegetable than what we grow.

and surely a consistently moist soil is not something they
enjoy. I can see BER is more of a challenge in container gardening.


I don't know that much about container gardening. I have noticed that
being in a container loses the moisture tempering of being in ground. I've
seen both standing water in containers and containers that were completely
dry, even though it had been raining for days not long before. Soil and
drainage is much more critical in containers, it is also much easier to
control.

To make the whole BER thing more complex, it appears that calcium can be
displaced by other ions or cations that may be in your soil. So, you may
not have good tomato soil without ever knowing it.



How about just sticking some calcium tablets into the soil? I don't need 25
pounds of lime just for my few pots.

Paul