FarmI wrote:
fsadfa wrote:
songbird wrote:

all these chemicals that plants make to defend
themselves from predators (including herbivores/
omnivores i.e. us) at some level will be doing
some damage and perhaps organic gardening
which increases certain chemicals may be increasing

Interesting point, obviously the plants have no idea what chemicals
they produce contributes to human wellness nor do they care

not directly as they don't "mentate" (there
is rumor most people don't either ), but
if they kill off all of their seed dispersers
then they will eventually be outdone by
the other plants that are "nicer".

it's an interesting dance that they
must do, protect their green stuff
from predation, but make their
fruits yummy so that they get their
seeds moved. Mr. Pollan in
_the Botany of Desire_ is very
good at observing this dance in
several forms.


and one has to reconcile the fact that we are living longer then ever
on mainly a corn syrup diet

we can credit medical science for most of
this change (not diet). if diet were a major
contributor to health i know many children
who should be dead. they live off a very
restricted diet of primarily heavily processed
nutritionally poor foods, but somehow they
manage to grow taller than me, they graduate
from high school with honors, play sports at
a high level, etc.

medical science might even be going fast
enough to keep these people healthy and
functioning long past what they would be
otherwise blowing out kidneys and hearts
due to long term poor diet. i believe it's a
race at the moment and junk food is winning.

why it is winning is simple, the brain loves
sugar, salts and lipids and makes sure to
get those. it's very hard to avoid junk food.


songbird