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Old 01-07-2010, 05:26 AM posted to rec.gardens.edible
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In article ,
"songbird" wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article fsadfa wrote:
On Jun 30, 11:30 am, Billy wrote:

Tomato leaves are poisonous, as are rhubarb, however most poisonous
plants aren't found in the vegetable garden (surprise, surprise),
they are found among the ornamentals that are not likely to be
eaten.

you can't make the assumption that because a plant is not poisonous,
it is 100% good for you


And you can't make the assumption that organic farming is making a
traditional food more toxic.


you can't assume that traditional foods are
less toxic to begin with.

i didn't even know until a few weeks ago
that rhubarb can be troublesome if you
eat it shortly after a frost.


and one has to reconcile the fact that we are living longer then
ever on mainly a corn syrup diet

Make that in spite of corn syrup. Obese, type 2, diabetic children
aren't going to increase the life expectancy average.
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facts are facts, facts can be stubborn things

I suspect having cheap calories to eat overrides everything else, IMO


Not if the cheap calories that are causing life shortening illnesses;
metabolic syndrome includes obesity, hypertension, diabetes, high
cholesterol. One of the reasons that grain was processed was because
pests avoided it in favor of whole grains.


one of many reasons. shelf life/storage concerns,
uniformity of texture/moisture levels, avoiding rancidity
(removing the germ/oils), residual fungal toxins, and of
course getting rid of the impurities to a greater extent.
as one person said "no rat/mice feces is the acceptable
level in flour used to bake my bread!" or at least they
feel psychologically better if the word "bleach" is used
for the remains. i don't, i like whole grain multi-grain
breads and if there's a rat dropping in it i probably
won't notice because of the toasted sesame seeds
anyways.

the stuff about too much sugar is probably true,
yet the fault of cheap calories is not the companies
producing but the consumers who are buying and
feeding their kids this stuff repeatedly (not in
moderation as a treat) and then letting them sit
around all day and play video games.


songbird


"SAVE THE LEAF LITTER"

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/22/ma...ml?pagewanted=
1&ei=5090&en=e8328c69f0b3f4be&ex=1334894400&partne r=rssuserland&emc=rss

A few years ago, an obesity researcher at the University of Washington
named Adam Drewnowski ventured into the supermarket to solve a mystery.
He wanted to figure out why it is that the most reliable predictor of
obesity in America today is a personšs wealth. For most of history,
after all, the poor have typically suffered from a shortage of calories,
not a surfeit. So how is it that today the people with the least amount
of money to spend on food are the ones most likely to be overweight?
(cont.)
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Seems like the problem is the distribution of wealth.
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merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
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