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Old 29-08-2010, 05:20 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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On 29 Aug, 15:34, Stewart Robert Hinsley
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On 29 Aug, 10:40, "David WE Roberts"
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Anybody out there tried this? *Is it a waste of time? *I bought some
seed but it seems expensive, there's gotta be a cheaper alternative..
I wondered about some cheap lawn grass seed.
I suppose you want a fast growing annual thay gets dug in before it
has chance to drop any seed.


You don't want grass seed as such, you want something that fixes nitrogen,
like Phacelia, red clover, or mustard.


http://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/factsheets/gs3.php


Phacelia is especially pretty, we saw a field of it in France some years
ago, didn't know what it was at the time.


Thanks for the useful link.
One problem with using green manure extensively over the winter period is
that you have to clear this season's crops first which may be a bit late for
everything but Hungarian grazing rye.
Given that rye grass can be a pernicious weed because of the creeping root
system I do wonder how easy it will be to keep it within a plot and
completely readicate it afterwards.


Cheers


Dave R
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Seems that this particular stuff is not perennial.
http://www.thegrassseedstore.co.uk/1...ar-silage-ley-
p-30.html


Grazing rye is a form of Secale cereale bred for grazing rather than for
grain production. It is an annual.

Rye grass is Lolium perenne or Lolium mulltiflorum or their hybrids. The
common one (even apart form it's extensive use in rye-clover pastures)
is Lolium perenne, which is perennial. Lolium multiflorum is
annual(ish), and is known as Italian rye grass or annual rye grass.

Rye and rye grass are not particular closely related - while they''re in
the same subfamily (Pooideae) they are in different tribes; rye belongs
to Triticeae (with wheat and barley), while rye grass belongs to Poeae
(with fescues and meadow grasses).
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Sheesh!! :-)