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Old 27-11-2010, 04:15 AM posted to alt.motorcycles,alt.usenet.kooks,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,rec.gardens
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Default Are all trolls bad at math?

Big Crotch on a Small Fish stated in post on
11/26/10 8:31 PM:

Steve Carroll wrote:
On Nov 26, 5:56 pm, Snit wrote:

(snip)

Lack of proof equals or necessarily leads to Doubt
Doubt equals or necessarily leads to a Valid Refutation
Lack of proof neither = nor necessarily lead to a Valid Refutation

Where an allegation of guilt is involved (the context I made the
statements in), these are absolutely true for all sane, honest and
honorable people.

No, Steve: it is utter rubbish. But thank you for proving my point.


In context your first point pushes this idea:

'An allegation of guilt should not be doubted based on the fact that
there is no proof of the allegation.

All sane, honest and honorable people internalize the concept of guilt
the same way a modern court does: A person is presumed innocent until
proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt (or, in certain cases,
according to law). Having no proof doesn't fit this criteria in any
way. Here was one of my favorites by you:

"Um, Steve, even in a court room a lack of proof does not refute any
argument that claims someone is guilty"- Snit

Extremely funny stuff

Fact: In court or out, having no proof does not prove a guilt
allegation. That idea is absurd, which is why you were the only one
ever found pushing it.

(Snit will now talk about his belief that the right to a presumption
of innocence has no place outside of a courtroom. LOL!)


LOL!


As I have noted, Steve, you get confused between the concepts of absolute
proof and proof beyond a reasonable doubt. You cannot help but prove it.

In a court there is almost never proof... hence the standard of proof
*beyond a reasonable doubt*. Really, Steve, it has been years of my telling
you this.. and years of you not getting it.


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