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Higgs Boson wrote:

On Feb 4, 6:42*pm, Nad R wrote:
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:



"Billy" wrote in message news:wildbilly-
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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Nad R" wrote in message

During 911 every grocery
store had to give the names of everyone that purchased humus, an
arabic
food, the grocery stores complied.

Excuse my scepticism, but are you pulling our collective legs? *I know
the
US does some unbelievable daft things in the name of security, but
having
to
give one's name in order to buy humus is just so incedibly silly, that
I
find it hard to believe.

Can you provide a cite for that?

The large stores here will give you a small discount on your grocery
purchases, if you have a card from their store. The card is bar coded
and directs the purchases of your sale to your own personal database.
The database is of course for sale, so that when someone decides to sell
widgets, there is a data base of previous widget buyers, and advertiser
can aim their advertising at you. I don't use them, Admiral Poindexter
can find out about me the hard way.

Yes, I understand that, however do you have a (semi-)reputable cite about
the humus buyers?

I know that information from buying activites can be collected and
analysed
and that there may be some value in trying to identify people by
purchases,
but the commitment of resources to such a potentially futile exercise is
probably beyond the tolerance for wastage of even a profligate
administration.

[...]

Nightmare indeed. It is more than rumored that the US has rows and rows,
floors and floors, building after building of super computers that monitor
every international phone call, every radio frequency, every email of the
entire world. What! *You do not watch science fiction?

I think Frontline had a program about that few years ago. The
installation was in San Francisco, IIRC. Dunno if it was as inclusive
as you suggest, but it was portrayed as pretty darn inclusive. Think
it also said that the amount of information was virtually impossible
to address.
It was in the AT&T building in San Francisco. The software came from
Narus of Sunnyvale, Calif., and is called Deep Packet Inspection (DPI).

What I don't understand is why ISPs keep track of the information on our
activities to begin with.

It certainly seems to be "1984", and not "Brave New World".


Hide what, the humus thing was on TV every other night eight years ago.

And of course everything we see on TV is always, invariably, true and
provable.
If you watch the documentary "Corporation", you'll find that reporting
known falsehoods (lies) as news isn't against the law.

"The Corporation"
http://www.amazon.com/Corporation-Mi...DBJM8/ref=sr_1
_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1296889718&sr=1-1
(and at better libraries near you)

HB
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- Billy
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-Archbishop Helder Camara
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http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth...130964689.html