It's gotten a little better since I added AmQuel and replaced the heater
(all about 3-4 hours ago).


Tim B wrote:

Neons are beautiful little guys that don't tolerate life in a cycling
tank.
As you've probably read. People have counseled me in the past to wait
concervatively well past past the end of the cycle, 2-3 months.

The guppy behavior is puzzling. They aren't ideal starter fish but you
should have at least some level of success with the values you're seeing.


"dino" wrote in message
...
Thanks, Marvin. I did some more reading on these fish, and it turns out
they are alot more sensitive to water conditions than I had thought. The
guppies are still alive though, so I guess they are much easier to keep.

They're still gasping though, and the air pump doesn't seem to help much.
They do swim around longer though before resurfacing. When they are at
the
surface, they stay there for a good while before coming down again.
Anyone else have a siliar experience with an Eclipse tank system, or any
others?

Anyway, for those who may be following this thread, here's the latest on
my
water condition:
ammonia: 0-0.1 ppm
nitrite: .2 ppm (stable for almost 2 days now)
temp: 77F
dH/kH/nitrates: ?

The water is still clear with a very slight white haze (almost
invisible). The chemicals I have used so far a
* Kordon AmQuel & NovAqua
* Aquatronics BacterPlus
* Nutrafin Plant-Gro



Marvin Hlavac wrote:


"Dino" wrote in message
...
Unfortunately, I already lost my neon tetras Good thing they are
cheap! I found two dead this morning, and the last one died several
hours
ago. He was breathing frantically, and finally died under a piece of
driftwood. I think my heater could be to blame for this also, because
it
malfunctioned and by the time I noticed, the temperature was up in the
mid-80's (and the heater wouldn't shut off, even though it was set to
a little under 79).



Hi Dino,

Your Neon Tetras would not mind the temperature in mid-80's. The reason
they died is most likely the big 100% water change.

Good luck,
--
Marvin
hlavac (at) rogers (dot) com