Doug Freyburger wrote:
There are types of records other than direct temperature measurements.
Grazing cattle in the Greenland colony is one such measurement. We
still can not graze cattle on Greenland therefore the claim that this is
the warmest century in the last ten is a weak assertion.
If it is a "week" assertion, then you also cannot state that this is
century is not the warmest. This century could be the warmest in a million
years. I doubt cattle grazing has been going on for more that a millennia
or a good measure of past temperature recordings.
That I object to the socialists claiming the topic as theirs and then
proceeding to push their agenda based on that claim. I don't buy that
the socialist approach is the right way to go. It's not like that
approach worked well in the Soviet Union. Global warming is real quite
independent of human causation. What to do about it and how to go about
it matters. For example, not trying again that which failed in the
Soviet Union matters. I do not think that taking the Soviet approach is
the way to go. That's not about whether global warming is human caused
or not. That's about how to react to global warming irrespective of
causation. I think this is my main disagreement with Billy - He favors
the socialist approach without explaining why since it failed for the
Soviets we should try it again now.
I also object that Ultra Right Wing Capitalist claiming the global warming
is not man made. That political view is a two way street. Let face it, your
belief is on a God, not science.
If your wrong and the human race continues on it's reckless path the earth
will be very uncomfortable place to live for short term gains. If global
warming is not man made what harm is implementing a policy of reducing CO2
and the human population. I think there should be a balance between humans
and nature vs destroying nature at a breakneck pace to support a growing
population that will consume more and more resources.
without a bridge to rush to fight against the Panonian revolt. To have
two such centuries of global cooling implies at least one more century
of global warming before 1000 AD on some sort of human written record
that does predate the invention of the thermometer.
I disagree with your presuppositions that global cooling is preceded by a
global warming. Their are cooling temperatures in the past followed by
normal temperatures. NOT above normal temperatures like today's time.
more effect than orbit/spin interaction. And now there are greenhouse
gases from human activity.
Yes! "And now there are greenhouse gases from human activity".
Thank for confirming that global warming ( Greenhouse Gasses ) from human
activities.
A cautious approach that acknowledges this difference in quality is not
the same as a denial based on religious nonsense. A conservative
approach that remembers the fall of the Soviet Union under socialism is
not the same as jumping into socialism control because it feels good to
be doing something, anything. An understanding that climate change need
not be the actual motivation of politicians but rather their leverage to
get power is not denial. Plant bushes. Install solar cells. Compost.
If I understand this correctly, you think that Climate Change is a
socialist plot to be used for political power? If so you have have really
really gone off the deep end of the Glen Beck World of grand delusions.
Yea I half read "Collapse", some of which has interesting theories. But I
do not buy it completely. This video may be of some interest here.
http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/ja..._collapse.html
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