Billy wrote:
In article ,
Nad R wrote:

Doug Freyburger wrote:

It's an issue not handled in the currect discussion. While the fact of
global warming completely real it demonstrates that our current century
is not the warmest of recent times. It demonstrates that the records
cited do not go back as far as climate records in general. It also

If there are no temperature records of the past, how do yo know that our
century is not the warmest century in "human" history?

demonstrates that degree of human causation is not the primary issue
because humans have done fine in centuries past that were warmer than
today. The primary issue is the social change triggered by climate
change and what to do about it. The history of Greenland makes it clear
that global warming has happened in the past without human input so it's
It appears to be more global cooling than global warming, as you might
expect considering the fiery origins of the planet.

not about that. A point that Nad R hasn't gotten.

When has global warming happened in the past?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geologic_temperature_record#Overall_view


The planet has had ice ages due to volcanos and possible meteor impacts.
When the dust settled, the earth returned to normal temperatures. Because
the ice melted does not constitute a global warming, higher than normal
temperature..

Global warming can happen because of increased CO2 levels, or increased
solar luminance. Heightened CO2 levels have preceded at least 5 GLOBAL
MASS EXTINCTION'S.

Note: "faith" means believing in something in which all the facts are not
there.
Ex: I have "faith"I will find that hot looking woman and have a happy life


Note: "faith" means believing in something in the abscence of objective
proof.

In my argumentation I think I stated in the last millennia, one thousand
years, global warming was not to be found. I admit millions of years ago
global warming occurred as the earth was still forming and dinosaurs were
roaming around. Doug was indicating in recent history of the "recent" ice
ages was followed by global warming a higher than normal temperature. I
view which I reject.

Also to me, "facts are not all there" seems to have the same meaning as
"absence of objective proof". Are we going to be splitting hairs over this
seemingly same definition

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Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)