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Doug Freyburger wrote:

Bill who putters wrote:

Strange thought entered my mind concerning the tragedy in Japan. With
the higher levers do radiation entering the ocean. With this make the
fish unsuitable for harvesting and will this enable the fish
populations
to have a long respite ?

Probably not. The ocean is too big so dilution works. The isotopes
have short enough halflives that the radiation will fade very quickly.

Except for Iodine-131 (8.02 days), most of the rest have half lives of
30 years and up.

The current situation is a huge mess but the effects will remain more
local than what happened at Chernobyl. There will be more of a move
farther away from shore by Japanese fishermen but that's nothing new -
They are hunting whales in the Antarctic Ocean already now.

Approaches that work for DDT and mercury will work exactly the same
way for the small amounts of long life isotopes - Eat lower on the food
chain. Plant eating fish over predator fish, squid over fish, small
critters over large critters. Conveniently this approach also helps
fish populations.

Anyone know about the ramifications ?

Far more likely to have impact on land industry than sea industry. No
shift from fossil fuel to nuclear so increased strip mining in coal
belts. Increased CO2 release. And no change in the exponential growth
curve of installed solar cells so the good promise on that front is not
effected. Given how industrious the Japanese have been in the past they
will recover, rebuild and be back near the top sooner than most expect.

I don't share your optimism.





Neither do I . I'm betting Japan within 50 miles of the reactor will
never be rehabitated. As of right now. They have already said some
cities are off limits for " tens of years " A big typhoon could wipe the
whole island out. With radiation. The problem is ingestion of radioactive
particles. . Not radiation levels from the air or background. As the news
is telling you. Radiation levels are irrelevant. Ingest the smallest
particle and its a guarantee of something bad. it will go somewhere in your
body and do damage.
The US is completely covered. They are dumping it (water ) in the
ocean. And cant stop it. The water solution was a waste of time and foolish.
It didn't cool anything. Because its just sitting there. They are talking
about the concrete solution which may or may not work. Its more likely to
explode. MOX cant never get away from you .You cant ever let it get away.
There is no way to stop it. Its under there , melted down. Molten with the
concrete. If its not in the earth. The politically correct term "cracks"
may mean its melted a hole in it. And you cant do nothing about it. They
tried to plug it and its not working.

The only real solution is too put an A bomb in each reactor and blowing
it off and hope it vaporizes the fuel. As screwed up as that sounds . It
would be the best solution.

The japs are also arrogant and didn't want to lose face so they
dragged ass .And used water. So as not to admit defeat. Radiation levels
are trillions and trillions of times a safe level.

The fishing industry is hosed. Manufacturing is hosed. farming is hosed,
The ocean is hosed. Toyota is hosed. They are in fact. finished.