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Old 11-04-2011, 06:36 PM posted to rec.gardens.edible
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Default What pollinates apples, besides bees?

In article ,
"Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds" wrote:

In article
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Billy wrote:

In article ,
"Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds" wrote:

In article
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Billy wrote:

In article ,
"Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds" wrote:

In article ,
"Steve Peek" wrote:

Honeybees were first brought here by the pilgrams, by T.
Jefferson's
time there were thousands of escaped "wild" colonies.

Which in fact means they weren't "native". Perhaps you mean invasive?

Try "feral".

Whatever you call them, you can't call them "native"

I never tried to call them native, and invasive isn't the antonym of
native. The antonyms of native would be foreigner, immigrant, imported,
or acquired.

Antonyms for invasive would be noninvasive, confined, defensive, and
unintrusive.

What kind of brain damage am I dealing with here?

Thanks for clarifying the situation. It is truly heroic (or stoopid) to
engage in a contest where you don't have a tinker's dam of a chance to
win.

I don't know. Why don't you go to a doctor and upload the results of his
tests
on you.


If they were domesticated, and escaped into the wild, they are ipso facto
feral,


I've never heard the term used this way, but sure

indigenous (native) or not.


They may have become part of the ecosystem, but they were never indigenous
and
still aren't. Do try to learn the difference


I'll do this slowly so that even someone as intellectually infirm and
challenged as yourself may have a chance of understanding.

As Steve said,"Honeybees were first brought here by the pilgrims, by T.
Jefferson's time there were thousands of escaped "wild" colonies."

Now take your hand out of your pants, think really hard, and at the
first clause in the sentence that Steve quotes. "Honeybees were first
brought here by the pilgrims". What are our interpretations of this
clause? That the bees covertly concealed themselves from the members of
the ships company, much as in the manner of rats, in order to infest the
ship, (or were they just too cheap to buy tickets)? Or, were they the
property of one of the ship's passengers? Do you have another
alternative? Hmmmm?

That brings us to the second clause, "by T. Jefferson's time there were
thousands of escaped "wild" colonies."

Escaped from who, or what, or where? Hmmm? Any ideas?

If they weren't in the "Wild", from where would they have escaped? Hmmmm?

Let me venture the proposal that, "Escaped to the wild" would of
necessity imply that they had been domesticated (an antonym of wild;O).
What do you think? Hmmmm?

A domesticated species that has reverted to the wild
IS THE DEFINITION of feral.

QED

I hope that wasn't too stressful for you. I know that these kinds of
things can be difficult for you precambrian types (anencephalic), but
you are now on the road to actual thoughts.

Congratulations ;O))

Thanks for the opportunity to practice my pedagogy.

I think it is time for you to run outside and play in the street now.


If you like weekends (8 hr./day & 40 hr./week), then thank a labor union.
They paid for it in blood. Real working class heros.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haymarket_affair


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- Billy
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron.
- Dwight D. Eisenhower, 16 April 1953
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/8559254-11yearold-takes-on-genetically-modified-food-producers-video
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