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Old 15-04-2011, 05:43 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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Default Hi All, newbie from Essex.

On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 08:34:04 -0700 (PDT), harry
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On Apr 15, 9:21*am, Jake Nospam@invalid wrote:
On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 09:03:53 -0700 (PDT), harry
wrote:







On Apr 14, 9:39*am, Mark Baigent Mark.Baigent.
wrote:
Hi all


Absolute novice here.


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Mark Baigent


You need a good weed killer. Brambles are hard to kill. * Cut it all
down and when you get fresh new growth (prob.in June) spray with
"Pastor".
This is the best weedkiller I know for brambles. * It takes about
three weeks to totally kill brambles.
You need to hit the fresh growth in non drought conditions (but no
rain.)
You might need to hit ones that appear later once more.
Cut all the dead down *again. If possible,set it on fire on site,
(kills weed seeds).
Best to rotovate after, damned hard work to dig it by hand with all
the roots etc.
You will need to go to agricutural supplier to get Pastor.
Pastor doesn't kill grass, just everthing else.
Do NOTspray on a windy day unless you hate your nieghbours.
Read the instructions esp. about what strength for what weeds & safety
precautions..


Here we go again. Harry, please realise that the OP, in his own words,
is an "absolute novice". Pastor is approved as an agricultural
herbicide for professional use only. IT IS NOT FOR AMATEUR USE IN
GARDENS. (I'm deliberately shouting!).

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I always give the best way to tackle a job. Pastor is the best way.
And don't talk to me about "proffesionals". Work creation that's all
it is.


The "best way" as you call it should mean the "best way" in all the
circumstances. It's also interesting that Dow (who market Pastor) say
it's for nettles, docks and thistles. They have another product
(Timbrell) for brambles though, again, that's for agricultural use. I
doubt that Dow would bother to market Timbrell if Pastor was the best
product for the job.

All I'm seeing from your advice here and in the other bracken thread
is a sufficient supply of what the nanny Eurocrats will call
"anectodal evicence" of illegal selling and use of herbicides. That
"anecdotal evidence" could make the difference between product
approval and product withdrawal.

Meanwhile Mark would be far better advised to follow the advice of the
RHS at http://apps.rhs.org.uk/advicesearch/...e.aspx?pid=256 which
is, more or less, what the sensible posters here are suggesting.

Jake