Miracle gro
On Jul 8, 8:23*am, songbird wrote:
Gunner wrote:
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Wow birdie! *I had you pegged at no more than a day over 800 years
old. You old Shamanistas are amazing, but ya gotta get out more and
see how the real world has developed since you was a young girl. *No
one going to go back to get you folks left behind, so keep up.
"Nothing is... because everything is becoming"
* the real world development i see is to a
large part: ignorant, greedy, poisonous or
destructive to many creatures.
* you'd like me to keep up with that?
* there is some hope yet, but it is a
long ways to go.
Your objection here (or the pretense) appears to be cost? Is that
correct?
* my objection is that the OP stated they were
a new gardener. *which means very likely that they
were using a new space. *any long time gardener
knows that new soil is often just fine for the
first season and needs no additional nutrients
added to it. *short of obvious signs of deficit
(the OP stated none) why add fertilizer? *because
we've been raised with cereal in the box and
milk out of the bottle doesn't mean that nutritional
value comes from boxes and bottles.
* so instead of saying "yeah, go ahead dump
dilute liquid fertilizers on your garden it
won't hurt a thing." i recommended the OP do
some reading and learn about what they are
doing before adding anything to the soil, and
i pointed them towards organic methods because
they have less chance of being a runoff
pollutant problem and a better chance of
actually nurturing the soil organisms and
maintaining or improving nutrients in the soil
and thus the produce grown therein.
* is that clear?
* you were the one who came up with the
"selling something" language and i had to
laugh because you were the seller of more
products than i.
*You do not see the value in a soil test or buying fertilizer
when you can get it free, Is that your argument?
* i do not see the value in getting a soil test
if there are no signs of deficit.
* instead recommending the OP get some books
on gardening and reading up on soil will give
them much more for their future efforts than
what they can get by dumping gunk out of a
bottle.
* there are many good descriptions of both
fertile soil (and how to evaluate the soil
condition) and various deficits. *no tests
other than observation are needed. *relying
upon a soil test to tell what the soil
is doing is like using butt probe to tell
what the brain is doing.
*You do not appear to
be pulling a billy trying to use faux google references to falsely
"imply" Miracle GroG kills soil.
* no i do not have to imply that at all if
i tell the OP to not dump it at all then i've
helped them avoid the problems it can cause.
*We all know that is a grossly
exagerrated lie. Nute salts are the same regardless. Ya just can't
change science and really, *emperical data is so much more accurate
than your ilk's taste test method.
* if by emperical data you mean millions of
acres of destroyed top soil then you've got
all the evidence you need from dumping "Nute
salts" (whatever those are).
*As for being free everything has a cost.
Keep burning that wood birdie, love how that saves the environment!
* i dunno how much more burning i'll be doing,
but talking about the carbon cycle from the
rotting of organic materials in the compost
pile (or buried in the ground) and comparing
that to what happens to the carbon when you
make charcoal and the various soil nutrition
aspects of that is probably a much more
scientific process than telling someone "ok,
dump that on the soil".
* but whatever.
Joining in the laughter!!
* yuk yuk.
* songbird
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