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Baz[_3_] · 18-08-2011, 09:42 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening

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Danny Colyer wrote:

Nick perhaps needs reminding that punishment is not the sole
purpose of incarceration. It is also sometimes required in order
to protect the public.

You definitely need reminding that claiming that something is
required for a particular purpose does not mean that it actually
delivers what it is intended to. And there is a lot of evidence
that the high level of imprisonment used in the USA and UK actually
increases the danger to the public.

I wrote nothing to suggest that high levels of imprisonment were
beneficial.

Perhaps you have some convincing evidence that a violent criminal is
no less likely to perpetrate violence against the general public while
incarcerated than when at large? If not, my statement stands.

This is ridiculous. This will be my last posting on this matter.

The problems with excessive incarceration are well-known. Firstly,
it often turns curable criminals (including ones who have been
violent) into habitual criminals. And, secondly, it means that
the innocent and relatively so get corrupted by the hardened
criminals.

If there were a simple classification into habitual violent
criminals and non-violent suspects and criminals who will respond
to other penalties, then your black-and-white ideas would work.
Now, here, in the real world, things are not like that!

I suggest that you read up some serious studies on penology.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Can I just say that I can't see a reason why a shoplifter should be
remanded into custody and a violent criminal(not just our cars) with
history should be given bail. In the same court on the same day.
Seems like a lottery for the likes of us who are victims.
Penology????? Sound like a do-goder to me.

When we can't sleep tonight we will think penology.
After the umpteenth time of checking the doors or hearing a mouse fart can
we sleep?

NO

Baz