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Janet · 20-12-2011, 02:10 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening

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On Dec 19, 11:42*pm, Baz wrote:
NT wrote :

+1. Cardboard is excellent. I'd also plant something light excluding
the first yr, like nettles, pumpkins, courgettes, rhubarb, etc. If
you've got compostable material, that can go down under the cardboard..
Permaculture will wipe out most of the unnecessary physical work that
annual gardens require year on year, but it means getting used to a
whole different set of fruit & veg.

NT

I am very interested in this method of gardening, but why does it mean
getting used to a whole different set of fruit & veg?
Can't we just cut a hole through the cardboard and plant our usual veg.?

Just asking before I lay the cardboard and chuck the muck on top.

I trust you mean muck under the cardboard.

IME better to put the muck on top to help hold down the cardboard and
stop it blowing away.. By the time the much has weathered the carboard
will have disintegrated.

The whole point of permaculture is that it mostly uses perennials, so
you dont have to keep replanting,

Permaculture crop production was developed for (and works in) countries
with much higher, brighter light levels, longer growing seasons etc than
the cloudy cool latitudes of the UK. I have yet to see a permanent, or
even longlived, successful fully perennial Permaculture crop garden in the
UK.

However, UK limitations are no bar to using a Permaculture method of bed
construction in the UK, which you then plant otherwise.

Janet.