On 15/02/2012 23:35, BobWalsh wrote:

(snip - see Bob's OP for detail).

A very good summary. Only addition I would make is a mention of the
"Kleim's Hardy" cultivar of Gardenia jasminoides.

It isn't frost hardy, of course, but it's a lot hardier than Gardenia
jasminoides itself, and not quite as free-flowering IME.

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Jeff